Well, maybe because new music suxx

[basscooker]

Is Old Music Killing New Music?

Ok, generally. I'm supper sure there are tons of great new bands and talented young artists.

But in reality the gist of this article kinda makes me chuckle and go "yup".

Thoughts?

 

[Jazz Ad]

I think we're in a time of extraordinary musical creativity. You'd have to go back to early 90's to find something similar. Jazz pop rock rap metal and other genres have outbursts of beautiful creations.
Unfortunaly, young people don't buy much music anymore. Older people go toward older music.

 

[basscooker]

I'm joking of course to a degree. But anecdotally, I have a group of under 21 yo guys in my kitchen whose Playlists are nearly all 60s 70s 80s with a few 90s and newer tunes sprinkled in. I asked one day if they're doing it for me haha but no, they just like the older stuff better.

 

[PeaveyPlayer]

I'm joking of course to a degree. But anecdotally, I have a group of under 21 yo guys in my kitchen whose Playlists are nearly all 60s 70s 80s with a few 90s and newer tunes sprinkled in. I asked one day if they're doing it for me haha but no, they just like the older stuff better.

Because of you lol!
I'm 21 and I listen to a wide mix as well

From Bruno Mars and silk sonic
To blackbox 90s
Duran Duran 80s
Chic 70s!

I blame my dad but as you being the musical parent
You showed them music they wouldn't have ever listened to at all!

 

[turf3]

Well, let's face it, Millennials and Gen-Z haven't come up with anything new except avocado toast, the man-bun, and covering your ENTIRE body with tattoos (Yeah, I know, my father's WW2 Navy buddies had tattoos...). No wonder they're constantly trying to cop our music.

 

[PeaveyPlayer]

Well, let's face it, Millennials and Gen-Z haven't come up with anything new except avocado toast, the man-bun, and covering your ENTIRE body with tattoos (Yeah, I know, my father's WW2 Navy buddies had tattoos...). No wonder they're constantly trying to cop our music.

I hate to disagree but you are referring to mostly rap music


Dua lipa and the weekend are actually very 80s inspired albums as well as Miley cyrus and her newer material !

Silk sonic and Bruno Mars really does give a Marvin Gaye vibe

 

[BarqsBitMe]

I think we're in a time of extraordinary musical creativity. You'd have to go back to early 90's to find something similar. Jazz pop rock rap metal and other genres have outbursts of beautiful creations.
Unfortunaly, young people don't buy much music anymore. Older people go toward older music.

And the thing about young people not buying music anymore isn't totally on them/us. So many things have moved to a subscription based model and it is increasingly difficult and/or annoying to find somewhere to buy a song or album. Even then, if you buy you can only use that file on the platform it was made for. In other words, I can't buy songs from ITunes and then move those files to other devices unless they also have ITunes. Even with ITunes, each and every time I open it to look for music I want to buy I am bombarded with ads for ******* Apple Music, which is of course subscription based. I absolutely loathe this perpetual renting of everything...and similarly this notion that one is not actually buying a song or album but rather leasing legal permission to access said song or album... permission that can and will be revoked at any time at a company's whim because there is nothing a normal person can do about it. Additionally is the fact that you simply cannot purchase songs or albums without going through some third party app that makes you give them your personal information. That only motivates people with the technical knowhow to pirate things. The industry has chosen this path... or rather the mega companies that control the industry have chosen this path.

 

[brianrost]

It's an interesting article, I'm on Ted's email/blog list and read it when it showed up. Ted is a pianist as well as writer. Rick Beato already has a video discussing it (he pretty much agrees with Ted).

Good news for classic rock dad bands

 

[buldog5151bass]

I see a couple of reasons:

1. Since fewer people can actuallake any money recording music, there just are fewer "professional" musicians.
2. The new generation grew up not paying for music - certainly not regularly. Most of the buyers are older, and that's what they know.
3. The majority of the new music is not being made to sell, but as part ofmarketing other things
4. Because almost anyone can put something together in their basement with a computer, the idea of waiting for the next Sgt. Peppers just isn't out there
5. My personal reason - because every songs is done with unlimited tracks, and is compressed as @$-_#@, everything tends to sound the same.

 

[Killing Floor]

There are 10,000 more bands/artists/writers/performers today than there were when I was in high school.
There are 10,000 more avenues to hear/see music of your choosing.

Maybe I'm older than last week's sushi but music is infinitely better today than it was in the 70s and 80s. You just have the option of not hearing music you don't like. That's the driver and that is the difference.

And you all are welcome to get on my lawn. What the heck is a lawn good for anyway if you can't step on it?

 

[turf3]

I hate to disagree but you are referring to mostly rap music


Dua lipa and the weekend are actually very 80s inspired albums as well as Miley cyrus and her newer material !

Silk sonic and Bruno Mars really does give a Marvin Gaye vibe

Copying something their elders did in the 1980s hardly qualifies as "original", I think.

Anyone remember the old John Lee Hooker song "Twist Ain't Nothing but the Old Time Shimmy (like my Grandma did)"?

Nah, I thought not.

 

[turf3]

I hate to disagree but you are referring to mostly rap music

Well, the last two words up there constitute an oxymoron.

 

[Nashrakh]

Well, let's face it, Millennials and Gen-Z haven't come up with anything new except avocado toast, the man-bun, and covering your ENTIRE body with tattoos (Yeah, I know, my father's WW2 Navy buddies had tattoos...). No wonder they're constantly trying to cop our music.

OK Boomer.

 

[superheavyfunk]

Oh. My. God.

Are we really going forward with this conversation? Haven't we had enough of this ageism crap in the last couple weeks with all the threads about how old everyone is and how much of TB convos are centred on old folks' ideas and ideals?

Geez… it's enough to make a middle aged bassist quit the forum. Seriously - I've had enough of this.

 

[basscooker]

I was just posting an article that made me smirk.

This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[Winton]

I was just posting an article that made me smirk.

This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[Hasty]

Copying something their elders did in the 1980s hardly qualifies as "original", I think.

Anyone remember the old John Lee Hooker song "Twist Ain't Nothing but the Old Time Shimmy (like my Grandma did)"?

Nah, I thought not.

Sure it can be original… just depends on how the material is approached.


I've been listening to a podcast lately about rock music history. Really opened my eyes on how everything was stolen from someone else from the late 1800's onward. Elvis, the Beatles, all of them taking from someone prior to them. Even back then they knew about it and most artist expected it to happen.

One singer had her source material so blatantly copied by another artist that when she took out a life insurance policy, she listed the other singer as her beneficiary because obviously her death would affect the ability of the other singer to earn a living moving forward.
Good stuff.

 

[BadSanta1281]

Hey, watch it! Man-buns are by Millennials.

A couple of my fellow boomer friends are sporting (grey) man buns.

Ugh... looks like they're trying too hard to be cool to me.

No offense to any man bun devotees. But really...

 

[Winton]

A couple of my fellow boomer friends are sporting (grey) man buns.

Ugh... looks like they're trying too hard to be cool to me.

No offense to any man bun devotees. But really...

It doesn't really bother me, personally. I grew up in Japan, and although samurais have been gone for almost a thousand years, they essentially had man buns. Heck, lot of Western countries have in the past as well!

P.S. I love how this conversation derailed so much from OP's original intent of their post. #theinternetinanutshell