You get rid of hum without phase cancellation but the loading artifacts still happen. It doesn't sound bad but it also doesn't sound exactly like a single coil.
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What causes that Jazz Bass Scoop?
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You get rid of hum without phase cancellation but the loading artifacts still happen. It doesn't sound bad but it also doesn't sound exactly like a single coil.
I guess if you like single coils you just need to manage that hum to some extent.
You're way over-thinking this. It's phase cancellation, plain and simple.
I gave an example of why I thought that right after what you quoted. You can isolate your pickup signals using resistors.
1960s Jazz Bass - Isolated Dual Stacked Vol/Tones - How does it affect tone?
Basically, if comb-filtering is solely responsible for the scoop, why does it go away when using resistors to isolate the pickup signals?
You can do the same thing by rolling down the pickup volumes on a Jazz bass, e.g. set the bridge and neck volume both to 90%. Compare that tone to both volumes at 100%.
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There's this cool applet that shows this :
Guitar Pickup Response Demonstration
Here's what I'm getting with the 2 pickups at 100% (circles = harmonics for the first G played on the E string) :
For reference, I've added a few other captures (neck only, bridge only, neck with a bit of bridge blended).
I play fender American Standard Jazz basses exclusively, and I always run both pickups at the same volume for any genre and they never fail to deliver killer tone.
Doug Parent
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Probably damages them psychologically. Support group for canceled frequencies might be helpful.
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Cool! I may have seen this before. Very curious what happens when the pickups are moved closer and pushed apart. Will need to play with it.
Thanks!
interesting. i've always disliked the sound of both pickups together on any bass i play, whether it's a rick, a jazz, a pedulla PJ, whatever - i've always played one pickup or the other. now i know why.
Interesting. Still like the sound with the pickups and tone control all the way up and I don't have any trouble being heard in the mix with it that way.
However, to be entirely truthful and candid, I compensate somewhat at my amp where I boost the low-mids centered on about 250Hz about 2 clicks because my amp gives me the flexibility to do so. In any case, it works great for me!
However, to be entirely truthful and candid, I compensate somewhat at my amp where I boost the low-mids centered on about 250Hz about 2 clicks because my amp gives me the flexibility to do so. In any case, it works great for me!
Eh, not really. In the case of the strat, they pickups are wired "out of phase", so they get that odd tone that is actually so cool. Do that with a J bass and it will sound... really thin. I know. I've done it.
But the term is correct - one is electrically "out of phase", in the case of the J bass you get phase cancellation when the two signals combine. All can be seen with a good scope or doing an FFT. SOME of us quite like that "J-bass scoop".
Good info here but I feel like this is less noticeable in basses with active circuits like EMGs for example, why?
I attempted to make a thread like this once. Turned into people flat out denying that the scoop existed, there was no scoop, they ain't ever heard of no scoop, and they actually got LESS mids when soloing their bridge pickup. I always just assumed reason 3. Mine is wired in series though.
Hopkins
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Ehh, dummy coils are nothing but tone and output sucks.
There is no mid scoop in a Jazz bass wired in series. #3 is the obvious answer.
