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What Configuration?

What Config to use for Funk/Slap/Groove

  • 2x12 cab

    Votes: 18 19.6%

  • 4x10/1x15 cabs

    Votes: 55 59.8%

  • 8x10 cab

    Votes: 13 14.1%

  • 4x10/1x18 cabs

    Votes: 6 6.5%
  • Total voters
    92
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Libertad

Jun 5, 2006
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Moreno Valley, Ca
#1
I am wanting to upgrade my rig soon. I play mostly neo funk and slap/pop (similar to RHCP) with some blues, jazz and rock, I am going crazy trying to choose what configuration is best for me. I need to cut through a guitar, keyboards, drums, congas, and various percussion instruments (we also have afro cuban influences).
Should I get a 2X12 such as a Shroeder or should I get a 4x10/1x15 or a 8x10 cab What is the best configuration for what I need. I have been spending hours (I'm on disability) on this amp forum when I am not practicing trying to figure out what would be best for me so that I can focus on one configuration and then find the brand for me instead of playing pinball in my head :help: trying to figure out what is for me. Money is an issue, but I am done with the budget amps and cabs (I currently use a GK Backline 210). So if I have to piece it together then I will, I just want quality at a decent price and combo's are not out of the question.
I have the bass I want (Geddy Lee strung with GHS boomers .045-.105), now I just need to find the config I want. I definately want to be able to play small to medium sized shows without pa support if need be. So many questions running through my head. Is a 2x12 more for me than a 4x10 or is an 8x10 what I want or 4X10/1X18.............:help:
 
#4
Well, flea has been known for a long time to use a GK 4x10 and 1x15. Three of each, actually. The advantage of having two medium sized cabs versus one huge cab (such as an 8x10) is portability as well as having the option to bring only what you need to a gig. Chances are you won't need to bring the full-stack out to every show you play. Another question. What amps are you interested in? Tube, solid-state, hybrid? Any brands? Your amp of choice is important in what cab or cabs you choose to go along with it.
 
#6
fretless Bob said:
i voted 2x12 but i think that a 4x10 would work just as well, have you thought of a 2x12 and a 4x10?


Dave
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I have not thought about that. :hyper: wow sounds like a great combination and I could get one cab and then the other when I get some more scratch $$. Have you had any playing time with a config like this and if so what did you like about it? If I decide to go with this what would you purchase first the 2x12 or the 4x10?

I do appreciate all of the advice, keep it coming..............:bassist:
 
#7
ScottyAx800 said:
Well, flea has been known for a long time to use a GK 4x10 and 1x15. Three of each, actually. The advantage of having two medium sized cabs versus one huge cab (such as an 8x10) is portability as well as having the option to bring only what you need to a gig. Chances are you won't need to bring the full-stack out to every show you play. Another question. What amps are you interested in? Tube, solid-state, hybrid? Any brands? Your amp of choice is important in what cab or cabs you choose to go along with it.
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I am not to sure about the solid state/tube/hybrid stuff but I am open to all suggestions that I should look into further. I do like GK but have not tried much else. I guess I will try to match the amp and cabs together unless there are any other proven formulas for mismatching brands (this quest for the perfect setup is exhausting). I know Flea uses the 4x10/1x15 but just wondering if there would be a another config that would punch the same or better.
 
#10
Libertad said:
Just to back up what you said:
http://www.schroedercabinets.com/about.htm

I definately am leaning towards a Shroeder cab. I like the idea of the compactness. Anyone have any playing time with these?
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Do a search. There is a TON of info. on Shroeders. Some love them, some not so much. If it were ME, and I wanted Flea's tone, I'd go GK, being that is what Flea uses. My tastes are somewhat different, but if that's what you're looking for, you can't beat the
"original" A 1001RBII and a RBH410 cab, would make a fairly reasonably priced KILLER slap/funk rig.
 
#13
What's always interesting to me is how musicians just stack different cabinets full range. They parallel the output to a 1x15 and a 4x10. You hardly ever see people do this for hi-fi or mains. The frequency is usually split across the cabinets. Just stacking you might get lucky, maybe not.

A good three-way cab works great for just about any style. Only a few brands break the tradition of the standard cookie cutter configurations. They're worth seeking out and trying.
 
#14
Do many funk players actually use full stacks like that? I mean.. an 8x10 for funk seems like overkill. My experience is that the jazz setups are usually a little more compact.

A single hifi-ish 4x10 would be my choice.
 
#16
I'm playing a custom Jazz styled after the geddy through an old tubeworks set up and a 4X10 and 1X15 cab setup and i love it. I mostly play modern/alternative rock but we cover some Red Hot Chili Peppers stuff and it sounds great. The 15 will shake everyones @$$ and the 4x10 will give you plenty of high end to come through the mix. It's the best combo for cabs i've found
 
#17
Libertad said:
I have not thought about that. :hyper: wow sounds like a great combination and I could get one cab and then the other when I get some more scratch $$. Have you had any playing time with a config like this and if so what did you like about it? If I decide to go with this what would you purchase first the 2x12 or the 4x10?

I do appreciate all of the advice, keep it coming..............:bassist:
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well i own an Epifani UL410 and am about to buy 2 UL112s

when i tried out the 12s i found them to be great, real responsive like a cross between 10s and 12s, great punch and forward motion, like you can feel it in your chest.

if i was gonna buy one cab personally it would be the 4x10 but then im sure other guys would disagree with me here and go and get the 2x12.

good hunting :D


Dave
 
#18
IMO, my Epi UL410 is a do it all cab, but if you think you'll need more than a 410, a 115 has pretty much been the standard combo. Like Frettless Bob, I too have 2x112UL's and on a rare occassion have used the 410UL and 2-112UL's and they kill, they produce an outrageouse huge sound.
Also a good combo is a 210 and a 115 but in some venues, if you wanted to use a single cab stand alone, independently, one may not be enough for you, they'd have to be paired up.
I'd suggest try out a 410 of your preferrence and then see if you need to add on.
 
#20
If your going to be buying quality gear, I'd get a nice 410 setup and then add a 15 (or 212, or 18) if you want/need it later. Many 410's will get the job done nicely or be more than enough but I think it's likely that you'll find you want a bit more, I did. Another 410 cab is something to consider. If you don't need huge low end, and have good 410 cabs with nice lows, you might get the sound you want from all 10's. That's alot of speakers (loud!) and alot of punch. I'd stay away from 810's b/c of transportation issues. Plus there's not as many options. I think the 210 + 15 setup would probably be a little too focused on the 15. Remeber, a 15 has more speaker than a 2x10. If you want some bigger speakers, whether to go with 12's, 15's or 18's is purely subjective but I like 15's. I think of 12's as giving a little more traditional sound and 18's as being overkill unless you want ALOT of low end. 15's are great IMO if you have 10's untop of them. These are all generalizations of coarse, but pretty much all the info you'll get on speaker sizes will be. Make sure the cabs have nice tweeters, that can make or break the slap tone IMO. As far as amps go, I go for a similar sound as you and find the hybrid designs to be the best fit for me. As far as manufacturers, look at Eden, G-K, SWR (little thin/too hi-fi for me), Genz Benz, Schroeder (I think of schroeder as being a bit more rock than funk but others might disagree. most high quality gear is pretty versatile anyway), thunderfunk, epifiny, aguilar, there are many others. So yeah, anyway, I'd go with 4x10 + 4x10 or 4x10 + 15. As far as specific gear goes, I'd suggest looking at an Eden head, the WT550 and WT800 are great, and an Eden 410xlt (+another 410xlt or 410xst or 115xlt). There are other great companies, I just have much more experience with Eden and like it alot. Good Luck
 

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