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What do you think about Disney?

#41
Disney is good for the kids. I have many a fond memory.

Having said that, I had a little fun with Google just now. I threw in words like "Evil", "Hitler", "Disney" and "Mickey Mouse".

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http://mickeymauser.ytmnd.com/

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#43
Stumbo said:
A musician friend of mine that played at the Anaheim, CA Disney (I saw him there one time) told me recently that he was employed by Disney for nearly 15 years . It took 15 years to get permanent pension/health benefits. The group was let go right before they got vested.
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I thought Disney hired mostly union players? I knew a chick who was just a ripping fiddler, so good she was intimidating, despite being an excellent roll in the hay. This chick was a union player and played in a dixieland band near Main Street USA. She never told me about the pension stuff. She got paid pretty well (bought all of our meals). Was your friend in the union? Just curious. Still that's pretty lame either way.
 
#45
The guy quoted in the article makes quite a leap of logic, IMO, going from Disney marketing merchandise with their movies to Disney trying to replace a value system. By his logic, Fender is trying to make me believe that my life will be complete if I buy some of their clothes now available at Wal-Mart, and Gibson is subborning my value system with the Guitar Hero franchise, selling me on a rock star's lifestyle that includes the Gibson family of companies.

I don't agree with his assumptions about how much influence or what variety Disney has. They're a company, no more, no less. Either he was misquoted, or he completely ignores parental influence altogether in the formation of a scoety's values.

I don't agree with his interpretation of scripture, either. I also notice that he says consumerism, and the OP used the word capitalism...they're not the same thing at all.
 
#46
MatticusMania said:
Well if theyre such a wonderful corporation why wouldnt they?


If you couldnt tell from my previous posts, I'm joking. I just hate Disney for robbing me of my childhood. How was I supposed to know that Winnie was not actually made from Poo. I spent a lot of time in some sort of facility for that...
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I spent many a lazy afternoon making winnie out of my own poo. These were the fond memories of my childhood.
 
#47
WalterBush said:
The guy quoted in the article makes quite a leap of logic, IMO, going from Disney marketing merchandise with their movies to Disney trying to replace a value system. By his logic, Fender is trying to make me believe that my life will be complete if I buy some of their clothes now available at Wal-Mart, and Gibson is subborning my value system with the Guitar Hero franchise, selling me on a rock star's lifestyle that includes the Gibson family of companies.

I don't agree with his assumptions about how much influence or what variety Disney has. They're a company, no more, no less. Either he was misquoted, or he completely ignores parental influence altogether in the formation of a scoety's values.

I don't agree with his interpretation of scripture, either. I also notice that he says consumerism, and the OP used the word capitalism...they're not the same thing at all.
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These are good points. If the guy feels threatened by Disney, he should make his religion more entertaining. ;)
 
#50
Everbody loves capitalism and profitable business practices until a company finds a way to do it REALLY well.

Then they're evil.

Just like Wal-Mart! ;)

No one ever wants to believe that the consumers are to blame for... buying things for themselves.
 
#52
Disney always annoyed me because they frequently gave the message in their movies that if a girl was pretty enough on the outside then it didn't matter if she had nothing happening on the inside.

It bugs me how many women I know who've taken that to heart. I wrote a song along those lines:


Barefoot Cinderella

See the pretty plastic princess in her Disney movie dress
Nearly every little girl wants to be her.
But she tells them they're not worthy, makes them think they're just a mess
The same way that she heard the same thing said to her
Even though nobody ever said a word.

Little girls try to be like her, perfect plastic pretty pets
They grow up thinking that's the way they ought to be.
But Cinderella lost the bargain when she got her fancy threads
And gave up all her individuality
At least that's how it always seemed to me.

chorus
I always liked her best before she got her see-through shoes
Before she spent so much time looking in that mirror on the wall
Back when she though of something more than simply being cute
And wondering if she was the fairest of them all.

Back when she was barefoot, she had so much more to say.
She made decisions, had opinions she would share.
Then she got her big makeover and it all just went away
Now she spends all her time fixing up her hair
And wondering why Prince Charming isn't there.

But Prince Charming he's a smart man, and he's seen this show before
He learned his lesson from the one he threw away.
He tells the barefoot Cinderella that he wants to be her fella
Someone else can ask the Princess out to play
'Cause real women are better every day.


Although, in all fairness, the whole song could really have been summed up by the sentence "Low maintenance is sexy."
 
#55
personally, i don't see anything evil about it. yes, it's a marketing machine, the most profitable companies typically are, that doesn't make them evil.

fwiw i grew up with the animated movies, the lion king, the little mermaid etc.

i didn't end up with any kind of singing animal fetish so i don't see a problem
 
#56
Bard2dbone said:
Disney always annoyed me because they frequently gave the message in their movies that if a girl was pretty enough on the outside then it didn't matter if she had nothing happening on the inside.

It bugs me how many women I know who've taken that to heart. I wrote a song along those lines:


Barefoot Cinderella

See the pretty plastic princess in her Disney movie dress
Nearly every little girl wants to be her.
But she tells them they're not worthy, makes them think they're just a mess
The same way that she heard the same thing said to her
Even though nobody ever said a word.

Little girls try to be like her, perfect plastic pretty pets
They grow up thinking that's the way they ought to be.
But Cinderella lost the bargain when she got her fancy threads
And gave up all her individuality
At least that's how it always seemed to me.

chorus
I always liked her best before she got her see-through shoes
Before she spent so much time looking in that mirror on the wall
Back when she though of something more than simply being cute
And wondering if she was the fairest of them all.

Back when she was barefoot, she had so much more to say.
She made decisions, had opinions she would share.
Then she got her big makeover and it all just went away
Now she spends all her time fixing up her hair
And wondering why Prince Charming isn't there.

But Prince Charming he's a smart man, and he's seen this show before
He learned his lesson from the one he threw away.
He tells the barefoot Cinderella that he wants to be her fella
Someone else can ask the Princess out to play
'Cause real women are better every day.


Although, in all fairness, the whole song could really have been summed up by the sentence "Low maintenance is sexy."
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As always Bard. Bravo. I'm a fan of your lyrics. You write good stuff.
 

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