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What does it mean to have "Pro gear"?

I think most of you guys are getting way too worked up over this, I would not be insulted by it at all.

Have most of you not been in a band that auditioned new people? Then have the singer show up and not even have a mic or a stand?

Or a guitar player with no tuner? Or a drummer whose hardware was so janky he kept having to adjust his tom holders in the middle of songs?

So you schedule an audition, everybody is on point for it (because when you get right down to it an audition goes two ways; the player for the band and the player deciding if he wants to join the band) and some idiot shows up who wastes your time?

THEN it takes like forever to get rid of the idiot, they just want to hang around and play some more songs, even though by the second song you have no interest.

I will say the phrase is not really all that effective because the people with crap gear think their gear is great, just like they often think they are great when they suck.

My first "pro rig" was a Rickenbacker 4001, an Acoustic 220 head and two JBL E-130's I had mounted in my own cabinets.

Prior to that my rig was a Kustom 100 combo (woefully underpowered) and a Gibson SB-250. The SB-250 was a poor man's EB3 but it sounded like @zz, had a u-shape in the neck and would not intonate for ****.

I was actually a very good player for that stage of my experience, but my gear sucked....so it made me sound like I sucked.

Now it never held me back from getting in a band but I knew my gear sucked, but could not afford to upgrade it until later.

But I can guarantee you had I auditioned for a really professional band (as in gigs lined up, touring clubs, playing shows every week) my crap gear would have made me fail the audition.

Others have said this already but the key concept I read from "must have pro gear" is don't be that guy with a 40 watt Fender Rumble as his only amp who shows up and can't even get over the drumkit.

It's not so much has to be a pro brand (I seriously doubt someone would disparage a good Squier bass, in fact they might not even notice it was a Squier and not a Fender) but good enough and loud enough to work in a band.

Analogeezer

p.s. Someone brought up Geddy only paid $200 for his Jazz bass. Well in the era he bought that bass that was around the going rate for a Jazz. So it wasn't a $200 used bass from today, it would be a $1,000 used bass from today.
 
“Pro gear” in my opinion is gear that can be gigged with, won’t break down and sounds good. I think for bass it’s important that it can be intonated.

So basically that’s everything past a squire anfinity starter pack. The amp is too small and I think over time the bass would require too much work due to the cheap parts. That’s my opinion and I’m sure people disagree but I’ve messed with a few and the neck doesn’t play in tune across the fingerboard like some nicer basses. That right there is the difference in my option between cheap basses and more expensive ones, the intonation.
 
I have seen this one many times. Most of the auditions that I have experienced the "must have pro gear" thing...ended up being not worth loading my "pro gear" into my vehicle. For example......I auditioned for one band that wanted me to buy an American Fender P bass and an Ampeg fridge and SVT-4 head. They said that it was a crucial element of their sound....... a cover band that I'm pretty sure had never played a gig before.
 
I think most of you guys are getting way too worked up over this, I would not be insulted by it at all.

Agree completely. Something I try to keep in mind whenever looking at a "wanted" ad for musicians..... the content of the ad is almost certainly influenced by the shortcomings of the player being replaced. I try not to sweat the details on an ad placed by an anonymous stranger.
 
I have seen this one many times. Most of the auditions that I have experienced the "must have pro gear" thing...ended up being not worth loading my "pro gear" into my vehicle. For example......I auditioned for one band that wanted me to buy an American Fender P bass and an Ampeg fridge and SVT-4 head. They said that it was a crucial element of their sound....... a cover band that I'm pretty sure had never played a gig before.
Bingo.
 
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It generally means one of two things:

their last player had crap gear that broke down all the time or that player used it as an excuse for why they hadn't practiced

they want to see a brand name they like on the headstock
I went to an audition and the band leader did exactly that. As I was setting up he craned his neck over and nearly crashed into a wall checking out the headstock on my bass. My Sterling by MusicMan was probably not impressive, neither was my Fender Rumble 350 combo....and my playing didn't exactly blow them away. I just thought it was funny how he obviously strained to see how "not pro gear" my bass is.
 
For example......I auditioned for one band that wanted me to buy an American Fender P bass and an Ampeg fridge and SVT-4 head. They said that it was a crucial element of their sound....... a cover band that I'm pretty sure had never played a gig before.

Also required: a "professional attitude", then they get all upset when you asked how many gigs are booked, when/where they are and how much they pay?

"Pro-gear required, Pro-attitude required, to play free gigs at friends party for exposure..."
 
So, leaving aside amps and accessories:

I have a Squier Affinity Precision. All the wiring has been resoldered, new output jack, careful setup, control cavity foil lined and grounded (no hum), high quality strings. As far as I can tell the only real difference to a US made one is the wood used, the pickups which sound just fine to me, and the name on the headstock. So is it "pro gear" because it's functionally just about the same as a US made Fender except for the pickups, or is it not, because of the name? If I took the name off, would that turn it into pro gear?
 
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I have seen this one many times. Most of the auditions that I have experienced the "must have pro gear" thing...ended up being not worth loading my "pro gear" into my vehicle. For example......I auditioned for one band that wanted me to buy an American Fender P bass and an Ampeg fridge and SVT-4 head. They said that it was a crucial element of their sound....... a cover band that I'm pretty sure had never played a gig before.
“A crucial element of their sound” Did their sound consist of playing Mustang Sally and Brown-Eyed Girl like every other cover band? :roflmao:
 
I see this phrase a lot in "bassist wanted" ads, and I know what I think that means, but I'm curious how others interpret it.

What is proffesional gear to you?

I dont think its a problem to ask for people to have gear that actually works, kinda sad it even needs to be said. Yes, Craigslist IS that bad, and yeah I'm pretty sure that's what is driving 90% of people who include this request in the add.

One of the Craigslist adds I answered a few years back was an unprofessional on all fronts kinda fella. Scratchy pots, jacked up cable that needed to be positioned in JUST the right way, and hadn't even bothered to learn the songs he had ME learn. If this cat had been rocking 20 grand in gear he STILL would have sucked, but me asking him if he had pro gear sure would have saved me some time.
 
If this cat had been rocking 20 grand in gear he STILL would have sucked, but me asking him if he had pro gear sure would have saved me some time.
I'm guessing if you'd have asked him, he would have claimed it was all professional without going into too much detail about it.
 
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And, real talk here: if you have pro gear, you aren't asking this question, because when you have professional-level gear, you know it.

Fender American Standard and up level is pretty much the benchmark for instruments.

Can you successfully gig lower-quality gear? Sure, and lots of people do. But, let's not pretend that there isn't a difference between a Squier Affinity series and a Fender American Professional.

Serious musicians are expected to take their craft seriously and use appropriately high quality tools.