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what head is the better deal?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by dersali, Dec 14, 2018.


  1. dersali

    dersali

    Apr 25, 2011
    I have a hydrive 410 and am selling my LH1000 for 1 of these 2:
    Ampeg SVT4 Pro (my head and $400) used and its from 2005
    Genz Benz GBE1200 ($600) used from 2011

    I'm liking what i've read on here about the GB but just wanted to make sure which might be best for longevity. I play heavy rock and metal and keep having tube issues with my Harkte.
     
  2. Wasnex

    Wasnex

    Dec 25, 2011
    Google each amp and "problem" or "problems" After reading related threads on about each amps problems...if they are about equal, base the decision on which amp you think sounds best (best to play both amps if you can).

    The GBE1200 is my favorite amp out of a fairly large collection. I am pretty sure it is a very robust and reliable design. The only drawback is it is heavy by today's standards, and also its natural voice is pretty HiFi. You can dirty it up by wanking hard on the tube channel gain and EQ controls and blending the tube and FET channel. Rather than channel switching, I prefer running the amp with the channels blended like this. I find it pretty easy to get a big thick low end with a bit of grind and bloom that remains articulate and focused. I love the way this amp sounds and feels, but you may not. The amp has a lot of power.

    Never played an SVT4-Pro. But I own vintage SVTs and an SVT8-Pro...awesome amps! With sufficient knob twiddling you can get the GBE1200 in the ballpark.
     
  3. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    The SVT 4 is sugnifigantly heavier than the GB.

    @agedhorse might be able to shed some light on the 1200.
     
  4. Wasnex

    Wasnex

    Dec 25, 2011
    Per their respective webpages: SVT4-Pro = 39.5lbs and GBE1200 = 42lbs
     
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  5. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    That's shocking! The SVT 4 doesn't feel much lighter than an all-tube SVT to me.

    But I stand corrected. I didn't realize GB made anything that heavy either.


    My apologies. Carry on.
     
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  6. dersali

    dersali

    Apr 25, 2011
    Ya I've done tons of research and sadly can't play em...the GB is in another province and just wanted to see which was a better deal...sadly to the GB was a trade in last January so sitting @ long and mcquaid for almost a year. It would be shipped to me and the ampeg is in another city.
     
  7. jeff7bass

    jeff7bass

    Apr 9, 2009
    Genz Benz. Does a whole lot well. Built to last. Arguably one of the best heads ever made. Yes it's a tweaker but once you know how it works, no problem.
     
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  8. LiquidMidnight

    LiquidMidnight

    Dec 25, 2000
    Comes down to taste. They are both beasts.
     
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  9. Lammchop93

    Lammchop93 Supporting Member

    Feb 4, 2007
    Louisville, KY
    The genz is probably a better modern rig, and is much easier to haul to a gig. But both are amazing heads.
     
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  10. Wasnex

    Wasnex

    Dec 25, 2011
    I find it very easy to dial in, but I love the amp's natural voice.
     
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  11. five7

    five7 Supporting Member

    Dec 5, 2009
    Denver
    How much is your amp worth. Seems like you could get a svt 4 for not much more than what you have to give in cash.
    Here's one with 2 cabs and a warwick bass,
    Bass Amp, stack and Bass
     
  12. bherman

    bherman Supporting Member

    Apr 30, 2009
    Grand Junction, CO
    Genz Benz hands down. These were top of the line from a company that is known for producing many high-quality amps. A complete steal at the prices these are going for now.
     
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  13. Kukulkan61

    Kukulkan61 Supporting Member

    Feb 8, 2011
    Northern Arizona
    The one you dont have to pay for..:woot::roflmao::smug:
     
  14. Afc70

    Afc70 Supporting Member

    Feb 2, 2004
    Northeast Arkansas
    My preference would be the Genz Benz for sure.. powerful, modern tone & built very well.
     
  15. dcbassist5

    dcbassist5 Supporting Member

    May 11, 2011
    Baltimore, MD
    Endorsing Artist: Ashdown, Lakland
    IMO, the SVT4Pro is underpowered. Additionally, they are notorious for having solder joint issues.
     
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  16. FunkHead

    FunkHead Supporting Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    GB, otherwise keep the LH1000.
     
  17. gelinas666

    gelinas666 Guest

    Sep 8, 2009
    Genz Benz for me with the choices you've given.. :thumbsup:
     
  18. InhumanResource

    InhumanResource

    Dec 28, 2012
    The ampeg SVT4 PRO has a whole ton of options on it. I would call it more along the lines of a professional touring amp than some other models. It is an absolute tank.

    GB amps are great too but I couldn't get their tone into ampeg territory. I ended up going back to Ampeg, but that's a personal taste thing.
     
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  19. ThinCrappyTone

    ThinCrappyTone Guest

    Oct 1, 2011
    I’m a fan of both brands, but I would pick the Genz, in this case.
     
  20. dersali

    dersali

    Apr 25, 2011
    Thanks for the responses I'm ordering the GB tomorrow but still find it hard to sell my hartke
     
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