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What is overplaying ?

Most of Billy Sheehan solos fit into that category. IMHO

Is it cool or fun to see a solo thats only quarter-root notes? I think billy is very good, and in songs he rides the root with some fills now and then. He does it in a way which is tight and holds the beat. IMO and IME. But some of his solos it quite over the top, but he is capible of playing very simple too.
 
What do you mean, overplay???? didn't everyone in the audience come to see me? I am the most important member of the band. I try to play at least as many notes as the keyboard, and if he's winning, I'll play octaves and chords and hemi-semi-demi-quavers. Also, If someone in the audience is only staying for one song, I'll make sure they hear my entire repertoire of tricks and licks. Overplay?...me?...never.
 
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What do you mean, overplay???? didn't everyone in the audience come to see me? I am the most important member of the band. I try to play at least as many notes as the keyboard, and if he's winning, I'll play octaves and chords and hemi-semi-demi-quavers. Also, If someone in the audience is only staying for one song, I'll make sure they hear my entire repertoire of tricks and licks. Overplay?...me?...never.

nice :D
 
Check out this live version where Patrick (is it really him? I can't really tell) plays a P bass which sounds a lot better to me. As the tone is a lot less cutting and most of the low notes blend with the rest of the instruments, the bass line seems a lot less busy.

Don't know enough about live to know who the bassists are, but the guy in the second video seems a lot more capable of playing the line - in the pocket at least. :) Perhaps he got better as a bassist, drank less coffee, or the sound person knew a lot more what he was doing. For some reason the album version of that songs always irritated the crap out of me. Always thought the song would be a lot better if he cut back a bit on the bass.
 
Is it cool or fun to see a solo thats only quarter-root notes? I think billy is very good, and in songs he rides the root with some fills now and then. He does it in a way which is tight and holds the beat. IMO and IME. But some of his solos it quite over the top, but he is capible of playing very simple too.

Sure.
He knows how and when to play, no doubt of it.
I was only referring to his solos (most of them)
 
There are a half dozen great definitions in here for overplaying. I think of overplaying in general as a sign of musical immaturity. You aren't listening to the song or the other parts going on around you. If you haven't come up with a way to support what is happening, instead looking for holes to put things you've been working on in practice, just to see if you can, you're overplaying.
Even if the song is ripping 170 BPM shred metal, overplaying is possible if you're not supporting the song's harmony or rhythm.
It's about how the SONG sounds, not you alone.
 
What do you mean, overplay???? didn't everyone in the audience come to see me? I am the most important member of the band. I try to play at least as many notes as the keyboard, and if he's winning, I'll play octaves and chords and hemi-semi-demi-quavers. Also, If someone in the audience is only staying for one song, I'll make sure they hear my entire repertoire of tricks and licks. Overplay?...me?...never.

[insert picture of me laughing]:)
 
I'm confused,... that Live song sounds good... sounds a bit busy at the start but its coordinating with the drums so im not sure what im missing,... Viraeima is too busy for me and not mmm musically inclined enough to attract my attention? yet heaps of people obviously love the ability of death metal players to dance around the frets like that to insanely fast drumbeats, so obviously context is all in a given too...


besides Live are awesome,....
few awesome songs...
Pillar of Davidson:



didn't like the way the past few albums went but they certainly can rock out appropriately!
 

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