The neck is not from 83! Only the serial number decal. That is a 22 fret neck and will not intonate on an 83 Fender body without moving the bridge. I just saw a guy on ebay buy one of these necks for $399 plus ship. The only body this neck will fit is a longhorn. The 3D tuners were available in 83 but I think they used up the extras on these basses. FWIW my 89 longhorn Jazz bass did not have the 3D tuners but my 89 P Bass Plus did.
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What's it worth? Fender P gurus...
- Thread starter Tao4Now
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Parts!, Will Robinson!, Parts!. Also, no such thing as CBS in 1983. 1983 - 1984 =longhorns, which this one does not appear to be.
It is not a Parts bass! The bass is stock! Fender just screwed up the decals and it's not the first time. In 1990 Fender put N9XXXX serial numbers on basses Teles and strats! I see these guitars being sold all the time as 99 Fender guitars but they are from 1990 with botched serial numbers. You don't even have to take the guitars apart to spot them. In 1995 Fender moved the serial numbers to the back of the headstock while the 1990 guitars with the wrong serial numbers still carry the 80s early 90s Logos with the N9XXXX serial numbers on the front of the headstock.
I brought up the possibility of it being a parts bass; however, I gotta go with Bone. After reconsidering, I don't believe it is a parts bass. There was no 22 fret neck in 1983. The bridge, tuners, body style, Lace Sensor pickups, and neck are all correct for a Precision Plus from the late '80s - early '90s. I believe it is genuine and all original. I would bet on it.
This is a great community, and I thank you all for your input.
I've sent a message to the seller asking for a picture down the neck to check for twist. One pic of the guitar in the case looks like it has some serious relief in the neck, but it might just be an artifact of the shot angle. I've also asked him to plug it in and make sure it's functional.
I've offered $740, plus shipping costs. I'm awaiting his reply/counteroffer, and should hear back from him tomorrow morning.
I want this baby for a player. It'll be my fourth bass, following a First Act, an OLP 4H, and an Ashbory. It's my wife's 20th wedding anniversary present to me...
I've sent a message to the seller asking for a picture down the neck to check for twist. One pic of the guitar in the case looks like it has some serious relief in the neck, but it might just be an artifact of the shot angle. I've also asked him to plug it in and make sure it's functional.
I've offered $740, plus shipping costs. I'm awaiting his reply/counteroffer, and should hear back from him tomorrow morning.
I want this baby for a player. It'll be my fourth bass, following a First Act, an OLP 4H, and an Ashbory. It's my wife's 20th wedding anniversary present to me...
I stand corrected.1) 22 frets, precision plus- 1986
2) Precision plus longhorn-1989
3) 1985, new owners, after CBS. Corona factory is born. Thank you Turock.
That's a 1990's P Plus and it's market price is at most, $500.
Don't let the serial number mislead you.
The N3#### serial on these basses are well documented (and even found of the cover of a Fender Bass book).
Have you played it? Those Lace pickups are very modern sounding.
Put that $750 into a nice Vintage '62 Reissue P.
Don't let the serial number mislead you.
The N3#### serial on these basses are well documented (and even found of the cover of a Fender Bass book).
Have you played it? Those Lace pickups are very modern sounding.
Put that $750 into a nice Vintage '62 Reissue P.
parts bass??? I see it very difficult for a customer to find a Fender 22 frets '83 neck to replace a damaged original one on a '93 Rhino bass.... very possibly they put together the bass like this since the beginning at Fender: they were always used in the past to put together "these necks with those bodies" from various leftovers, there...
All of you who are saying it's a parts bass are wrong. The person who said it was an 89-93 P-bass Plus is absolutely 100% correct. I just confirmed it with 2 books I have on Fender basses. That IS a long horn P-bass Plus. They DID use up the 83 decals back then. They also have a picture of a very similar one in a book I own that has the toggle switch, 2 knob and 1 push switch between the 2 knobs. I can see all that in one of the pictures posted in this thread. Looks the same as in the book.
It bugs me when people post something that they aren't absolutely sure of and try to make it sound like they are sure.
It bugs me when people post something that they aren't absolutely sure of and try to make it sound like they are sure.
I had one of those back in... 1988? Mine was blue-burst with a maple neck. Nice bass, good sounding (recorded GREAT)
Was it the paint scheme where 1/2 the body was blue that faded to the other 1/2 silver?
They were doing some cool schemes back then. I had a Strat Plus from that era that went from red to gold. The lower body was red and the horns were gold. It was all stock.
It was kinda like a way dark blue (almost black) that burst out to a lighter (but still dark) metallic blue. These normally shipped with rosewood fretboards, but I was teaching at this music store, so they got a customer order lined up for me at cost... I think it came to ~$550 with case (in 1989 dollars).
Good bass... but eventually I got tired of the P spaced neck and have been playing J necks since.
Write him back and tell him your finger slipped; you meant to type $440 and didn't catch it right away. Seriously. That's not a $740 bass.
It's not a parts bass, either, unless someone took the time to assemble a set of P-Bass Plus parts.
I remember those basses; they were OK but no better. The few people I ever saw playing them gutted them, threw away the stock electronics and replaced them. EMGs were a frequent choice.
Write him back and tell him your finger slipped; you meant to type $440 and didn't catch it right away. Seriously. That's not a $740 bass.
It's not a parts bass, either, unless someone took the time to assemble a set of P-Bass Plus parts.
I remember those basses; they were OK but no better. The few people I ever saw playing them gutted them, threw away the stock electronics and replaced them. EMGs were a frequent choice.
I very much agree with this post.
Things you (the o.p.) should keep in mind.
This is NOT a vintage bass. This is a USED bass.
Boner Fenders are NOT as desirable on the market as their standard brothers, therefore not comanding the same kind of price. Good bass, yes. Desirable vintage piece. No.
As such, this would be a used bass at about the bottom of the curve on the used market, meaning it's about bottomed out price wise.
Figure it like this. A good used non boner American Standard Precision of roughly the same vintage (say 95 non boner) is only going to fetch $500ish. $600 if it's in great shape with the case etc.
A less desireable boner P/J is going to be less, and even more so with the cosmetic damage this bass has. Add in the even less desirable Lace p/u's and you see where I'm going right?
This is a late 80's bass, NOT an 83. Again USED, not vintage.
$740 would be about right for this bass if it were an 83 Standard configuration CBS era Precision, in that condition. O.k. maybe a bit more, but not much. Clearly, this bass is NOT, and it dates to the later 80's. I'd also be very much on the fence as to weather or not I considered 83 "vintage" or not. Still pretty much used IMO.
