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#4,182
I haven't really researched it, but I was actually just thinking/wondering about the thin lam thing recently.
It never crossed my mind to use paper or card stock and never knew people did it.
Now that I know about the paper trick for turning, I could see paper or card stock in a body with certain glues, but I don't think I would use any sort of paper in a neck.
I'd feel okay going pretty thin with a wood lam or veneer though. Just because the glue soaks into the fibers and locks everything together. For it to fail, the wood fibers themselves would have to give.
The biggest hangup for me on how thin to go is how thin I can saw and plane a lam to size. I'm probably limited to about 3/16-1/4". If I wanted to go thinner I'd have to buy veneer.
 
#4,183
Gotta be a penetration thing.
Raw wood fibers, cellulose, lignin... etc... being loose and porous in their natural state... allow glue to penetrate.
When those fibers are "digested" via the pulp making process... then crammed back together... that's a much less porous situation... and is dissimilar enough... like, It's not even wood anymore....To create a cold joint.

Sand a piece of raw wood down as thin as construction paper... then apply glue. It WILL penetrate to the other side.
It's happened to me with wooden pickup covers.

But use paper to protect your bench during a glue up... it won't. ...penetrate.
 
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#4,184
I would guess it depends on how much glue you use. If the paper isn't completely saturated with glue, then it's only the strength of the paper itself that holds the joint together. When you split the joint, you're actually just tearing paper. But if you really saturate it with glue, then you have to fight the strength of the glue as well, so it acts more like a wood-to-wood joint.

The choice of paper might make a difference too. A coated paper might help prevent the glue from penetrating, whereas something like construction paper will soak through easily.
 
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#4,185
mistermikev said:
finished my first full cnc tele, #8 scratch build so far... so hopefully getting back to a bass build I started earlier here shortly... anywho just wanted to share...
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Holy crap you got talent man! :jawdrop:

I'd like to formally attempt to peer pressure you into joining this year's winter build off:
Winter Build Off 2022 - Get Ready

It starts in about 10 minutes. :smug:
 
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#4,187
Gaah, I gotta stop looking at wood stores in my spare time. I came across this 1" thick (!) crazy figure bookmatched top and now my wallet is a lot lighter:
Bookmatched Maple Figured Top (LS2642).jpg


I figured (hah!) this would be perfect for a carved top semi-hollow CS-356 inspired thing so I gimp'd up a quick scale render with a light burst:
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Yeah, someday after my long list of other unfinished projects that should be awesome.
 
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Beej said:
Holy crap you got talent man! :jawdrop:

I'd like to formally attempt to peer pressure you into joining this year's winter build off:
Winter Build Off 2022 - Get Ready

It starts in about 10 minutes. :smug:
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thank veery kind of you to say! thank you for that! I would really like to be part of a winter build off... and have thought of it many times... but it always seems the timing is just not right. Further, I'm a bit unsure of the "rules". I have a bass that technically I would be 'reviving' for two reasons - 1 ) I had to put it down to do this tele for a dear friend of mine and 2) I actually positioned the stud holes for the bridge wrong (off by 1, story of my life)... but It's such a nice piece of wood that I won't waste it... so thinking of designing a piezo/saddle/bridge for it. further... this tele took me 9 months of my free time... granted that was 3 months of down time due to issues with my cnc and troubleshooting... but long story long I take forever! If I started now I'd prob be finished for next years winter build off!!
 
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#4,193
Gilmourisgod said:
You gotta resaw that, get at least two tops out of it. That board is sick.
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Yes, I will resaw it, but for the project I have in mind I need about 3/4 of it for the carved top. I passed on a lot of beautiful, but too thin, tops before I found this 2.3 bf one.

However, because this is already in two pieces, resawing mean that the offcuts won't be at all closely bookmatched so I may use them for other things.
 
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Jeff Siddall said:
Yes, I will resaw it, but for the project I have in mind I need about 3/4 of it for the carved top. I passed on a lot of beautiful, but too thin, tops before I found this 2.3 bf one.

However, because this is already in two pieces, resawing mean that the offcuts won't be at all closely bookmatched so I may use them for other things.
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See if the offcuts can be used for body wings on a neck through. Slight mismatch may not be too noticeable with an expanse of different wood between. On my six string I could just barely get the top layers out of the madrone board I had so I had to slide the match a little to get it to work and it looks fine.
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#4,196
Slidlow said:
See if the offcuts can be used for body wings on a neck through. Slight mismatch may not be too noticeable with an expanse of different wood between. On my six string I could just barely get the top layers out of the madrone board I had so I had to slide the match a little to get it to work and it looks fine.View attachment 4500201
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Gaah, don't get me started thinking of another build!

I guess I can use the back of the two boards as a worst case scenario. Those faces were just over 2" apart in the tree, the resawn faces would be just over 1.5" apart. Won't know until I get it resawn.

BTW: your bass looks fantastic! I think you can get away with the offset because the body isn't symmetrical.
 
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#4,199
Rôckhewer said:
Mike who?
How about a link to this woodseller.... Mike.
Thanks!

Gorgeous top. :drool:
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Sure, I don't mind sharing, but I feel like I need to add a PSA as I could be contributing to someone's financial demise by posting this. So, before clicking, be warned that most of what you see here is highly addictive:

https://www.curlymaple.com/Luthier_Material_s/46.htm

Run by Mike Taran, a very helpful and easy to deal with guy -- which only makes it worse!

:thumbsup:
 
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