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What's so special about Larry Graham?

Did anybody know Larry Graham is Drake’s uncle? (The Canadian rapper)
He is one of the first ones to slap a bass (If not the first one) plus you have to take in mind that these bassists are praised based in a specific time context where bassist would just be nonexistent to the general public, they made the bass the main instrument
 
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I'm not the biggest funk/r&b fan out there, but I can see why people like Rick James, Bootsy Collins, Bernard Edwards and the likes.

I can even see why people like James Jamerson, although I think he's seriously overrated.

But I don't understand why Larry Graham is so highly regarded here on TalkBass and in the media. I listened to Sly and The Family Stone and Graham Central Station top songs on Spotify and watched a few videos on YouTube. Sure, he has that sort of thumping technique and a few fills on "Thank You," but is that it? I guess he did come before Rick James et al., making him a pioneer?

I'm being serious here. I'm not trolling. What am I missing?
His long slinky thumb.
 
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I think it's okay to create a thread based on a somewhat absurd premise as long as the ensuing discussion is positive. It doesn't really matter if the OP intended to troll LG fans—we will all live longer if we simply assume that all questions asked are posed innocently.

Personally, I think LG is fabulous. I love his joyful approach to music, his warmth, his sense of humor, and of course his musicianship.
 
I think it's okay to create a thread based on a somewhat absurd premise as long as the ensuing discussion is positive. It doesn't really matter if the OP intended to troll LG fans—we will all live longer if we simply assume that all questions asked are posed innocently.

Personally, I think LG is fabulous. I love his joyful approach to music, his warmth, his sense of humor, and of course his musicianship.

Seems to be a lot of 'Who's best' type threads appearing recently, not a fan.
 
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If a guy who has been here a while says he ain't trolling then he ain't. Or if he is it is innocent trolling. The very same reason I stay back sometimes. I don't always know when I am trolling or hijacking a thread because I am never trying to. But that does keep the accusers from saying so. My feeling YMMV.

Anyway there are lots of bass players that I feel the same about but most if not always it comes down to taste and listening preference. Folks who follow drag racing or off road racing may not understand what is so special about Richard Petty. But my in-laws think he is a GOD and they could care less about Big Daddy. I once read a story about a very famous rock guitarist (can't remember who) that said the world is full of kids who can out play some of the most famous musicians out there. But until you tour and see all of the talent out there you would never know.

There are levels of trolling. This was a relatively good-natured troll to make a point. I don't think anyone saw it as mean.
 
For all these "Xxxx vs Yyyy, who is the greatest bass player" or similar things, this one not being that much different, consider each bass player in turn and ask yourself one of these two basic questions. How much different would music overall be today if they had not existed? Or from a personal perspective, how much different would your playing be today had they not existed? Someone may have been really the greatest in their own wheelhouse, but can hardly be called "The Worlds Greatest" or "The Best" period. "Biggest influence" isn't quite the same thing, either. In this case it's just "what's so special?"

For L.G. I gotta say, even though he had only moderate influence on how/what I play, for the first question he stands out as being pretty darned iconic in almost any form of modern music.
 
I'm not the biggest funk/r&b fan out there, but I can see why people like Rick James, Bootsy Collins, Bernard Edwards and the likes.

I can even see why people like James Jamerson, although I think he's seriously overrated.

But I don't understand why Larry Graham is so highly regarded here on TalkBass and in the media. I listened to Sly and The Family Stone and Graham Central Station top songs on Spotify and watched a few videos on YouTube. Sure, he has that sort of thumping technique and a few fills on "Thank You," but is that it? I guess he did come before Rick James et al., making him a pioneer?

I'm being serious here. I'm not trolling. What am I missing?
This post is eerily similiar to the Entwhistle thread.
 
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It’s all about their groove and feel. The way they sit in the pocket and make the songs what they are. I don’t know a lot about Graham but what I do know is the guy invented that slap bass sound that become the mark of a “good” bass player in popular YouTube bassist culture, not that it really is. Also the guy grooves like nobody else. People talk about Jamerson and the likes because they did things in new and novel ways, played on hundreds, if not thousands, of hit songs and were hired for this reason. Still, most of these players died or still live in obscurity, they aren’t known much outside musicians circles in my view and that makes them even greater in my mind. They weren’t looking for fame, just looking to get paid.
 
I'm not the biggest funk/r&b fan out there, but I can see why people like Rick James, Bootsy Collins, Bernard Edwards and the likes.

I can even see why people like James Jamerson, although I think he's seriously overrated.

But I don't understand why Larry Graham is so highly regarded here on TalkBass and in the media. I listened to Sly and The Family Stone and Graham Central Station top songs on Spotify and watched a few videos on YouTube. Sure, he has that sort of thumping technique and a few fills on "Thank You," but is that it? I guess he did come before Rick James et al., making him a pioneer?

I'm being serious here. I'm not trolling. What am I missing?

That "thumping" was the progenitor of ALL the slapping bassists! Flea, Stanley Clark; ANY bassist who snaps/slaps the bass owes it to Larry Graham's unique style. May I ask what YOU look for in a bassist? Who do YOU like/admire?
 
Plus, and I can't believe nobody's mentioned this (or I missed it) he invented those excellent crackers. I like the ones with cinnamon and honey. :D
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I'm not the biggest funk/r&b fan out there, but I can see why people like Rick James, Bootsy Collins, Bernard Edwards and the likes.

I can even see why people like James Jamerson, although I think he's seriously overrated.

But I don't understand why Larry Graham is so highly regarded here on TalkBass and in the media. I listened to Sly and The Family Stone and Graham Central Station top songs on Spotify and watched a few videos on YouTube. Sure, he has that sort of thumping technique and a few fills on "Thank You," but is that it? I guess he did come before Rick James et al., making him a pioneer?

I'm being serious here. I'm not trolling. What am I missing?
Listen to Release your self, Graham central station and sly live at Woodstock. Might not mean much to a 20 year old bass player though.
 
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