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What's wrong with Squier Affinity brand

My first bass was an Affinity P, it lasted for a few years of me abusing it like an unwanted redhead step child (dropped on concrete, stored in a garage for a while, you get the picture). For a bass to learn on it was great, but as soon as I started gigging I had to get a new one. It looks like you're already past your starting bass phase, so my suggestion is right in line with everyone else's that you should get a nicer bass. The Affinity series isn't the worst line in the world... but it's pretty darn close.
 
Well... the name certainly says something. One of the definitions of "affinity" is: A similarity of characteristics suggesting a relationship, esp. a resemblance in structure.

A Squire Affinity P looks like a P-Bass, kinda sounds like a P-Bass, and is nearly identical in structure... but it ain't really a P-Bass. :p

Guess the name kinda fits eh? :D
 
I got an Affinity with a Ming 2 band preamp in it and a GOTOH bridge off another busted bass with some FleaBass strings and I actually like the tone. Now I'm no super bad@ss bassist by NO ONE's stretch of the imagination but the sound overall ain't bad for the less than $200 total I have in it.
 
The necks are a crapshoot. A friend of mine has an Affinity Jazz with an awesome neck, great feel, very little relief, frets pretty even with the ends fairly well dressed. I've seen others that were horribly bowed even with the trussrod maxed out. Unplayable.
SX are probably consistently better in the price range.
 
Honestly there is not much wrong them if you are strictly looking for a entry level/beginner bass on the cheap, but as others have mentioned the quality is indeed lower so you cannot expect too much from it, but it's a bass and if it works like it should it should still make sound and be able to be played like any other bass would.
 
Not all Affinites are good or bad. It's not so much a crapshoot as it is a choice when given the opportunity to play one for yourself.

I found - quite by accident - that I have one of the better Affinity Ps (ca: 1998) - in that it had great tuners on it and they never failed, fell off or lost the ability to hold the strings in tune as is the case for every ring and worm gear no matter who makes it. Gears do not slip.

The pickups after a longish time however died - well the E/A half of the split pair did - and I just put a set of Peavey Furies in it and they are super sweet.

The bridge - although I've never seen it's twin - is heavy and certainly would be an upgrade for any Fenderesque bass, bar none were an upgrade even to be needed.

The body is just fine and it hasn't failed to hold a screw, hasn't bent, bagged nor sagged in the knee and certainly has a fine finish on it to this day.

The neck is right up there with a true Fender in that it is solid, hasn't bent either and has never needed even a tweak in the three different and totally nasty changes of climate in which it has lived in my care since the bass was new. The only time I move the truss rod is if I change strings and I only then do so as insurance that frankly, is just me being adventuresome and not necessary at all.

The neck may just be the crowing and most majestic part of this bass though.

From: Huntington Beach where the 60 degree air is so humid one gurgles when one breathes and one's sinuses are a useless accessory......

To: Anza CA's higher temps in the lower 100s and where your nose hairs petrify from single digit, lack of moisture.......

To: The Bitterroot Valley in Montana where humidity/temperature change on a daily basis --- I cannot ask a neck to be more stable nor would I ever expect one to be so inclined. The Affinity stays put as adjusted and hasn't so much as moved an iota due to atmospheric, tidal or mutating stray gamma ray influences.

Just for aesthetics, I put some very much older and again, for personal reasons alone, I changed out the tuning machines. It was not from any mechanical failure or necessity; it was for want, personally so, and totally just for looks.

Say or believe what you want about their tuning machine mechanical reliability , but those Affinities with the toy tuners are out there --- the totally enclosed ones - and these I would not place a bet on for reliability.

But they are a total adjunct to the truth about an Affinity, what with the open gear types being as stout and predictable as any other Fender/Squier tuner. Just stay away from the smaller, enclosed tuners on some Affinities --- and all will be well.

I still have - even after all these years - the original pots and wiring, and although they are the small diameter pots, they are quiet, the knobs haven't fallen off and they don't wiggle.

The jack, however sadly, did fail or so I thought. I just re-bent the tension on the connector spring after trying an unorthodox cable in it, and resized the thing and all is well there again too. (Can you say: 'Monster'?) Yet even after that abuse, the part hasn't failed to hold and it still does so in a quiet manner as a good female receptacle should.

What's not to love?

Some ROTO 66s, a .100uF Radio Shack cap (6 for 99 cents), the Peavey Furies (almost free) and a set of Dunlop Duals on the stock Squier nylon strap and it is an enigma to many: a sweet singing, reliable, good-looking bass.
 
Not all Affinites are good or bad. It's not so much a crapshoot as it is a choice when given the opportunity to play one for yourself.

I found - quite by accident - that I have one of the better Affinity Ps (ca: 1998) - in that it had great tuners on it and they never failed, fell off or lost the ability to hold the strings in tune as is the case for every ring and worm gear no matter who makes it. Gears do not slip.

The pickups after a longish time however died - well the E/A half of the split pair did - and I just put a set of Peavey Furies in it and they are super sweet.

The bridge - although I've never seen it's twin - is heavy and certainly would be an upgrade for any Fenderesque bass, bar none were an upgrade even to be needed.

The body is just fine and it hasn't failed to hold a screw, hasn't bent, bagged nor sagged in the knee and certainly has a fine finish on it to this day.

The neck is right up there with a true Fender in that it is solid, hasn't bent either and has never needed even a tweak in the three different and totally nasty changes of climate in which it has lived in my care since the bass was new. The only time I move the truss rod is if I change strings and I only then do so as insurance that frankly, is just me being adventuresome and not necessary at all.

The neck may just be the crowing and most majestic part of this bass though.

From: Huntington Beach where the 60 degree air is so humid one gurgles when one breathes and one's sinuses are a useless accessory......

To: Anza CA's higher temps in the lower 100s and where your nose hairs petrify from single digit, lack of moisture.......

To: The Bitterroot Valley in Montana where humidity/temperature change on a daily basis --- I cannot ask a neck to be more stable nor would I ever expect one to be so inclined. The Affinity stays put as adjusted and hasn't so much as moved an iota due to atmospheric, tidal or mutating stray gamma ray influences.

Just for aesthetics, I put some very much older and again, for personal reasons alone, I changed out the tuning machines. It was not from any mechanical failure or necessity; it was for want, personally so, and totally just for looks.

Say or believe what you want about their tuning machine mechanical reliability , but those Affinities with the toy tuners are out there --- the totally enclosed ones - and these I would not place a bet on for reliability.

But they are a total adjunct to the truth about an Affinity, what with the open gear types being as stout and predictable as any other Fender/Squier tuner. Just stay away from the smaller, enclosed tuners on some Affinities --- and all will be well.

I still have - even after all these years - the original pots and wiring, and although they are the small diameter pots, they are quiet, the knobs haven't fallen off and they don't wiggle.

The jack, however sadly, did fail or so I thought. I just re-bent the tension on the connector spring after trying an unorthodox cable in it, and resized the thing and all is well there again too. (Can you say: 'Monster'?) Yet even after that abuse, the part hasn't failed to hold and it still does so in a quiet manner as a good female receptacle should.

What's not to love?

Some ROTO 66s, a .100uF Radio Shack cap (6 for 99 cents), the Peavey Furies (almost free) and a set of Dunlop Duals on the stock Squier nylon strap and it is an enigma to many: a sweet singing, reliable, good-looking bass.

Ha, what a coincidence, almost the same story here!
I bought my Affinity P-bass new in 1998. Never modded it. And after all these years (fourteen years) I'm still totally happy with it!!

Tuning stability is great, I love the neck, pickups are okay, finish holds up great, neck has never ever needed to be tweaked, all parts are still original.

So one can't just generalize and say that all Affinity's are rubbish. :rollno:
 
I'm in the market for a second bass. I have an Ibanez GSR200 now but I'd like another bass to have in the arsenal.

Looking at a P bass or a J bass specifically at the Squier brand. I see there's a regular Squier brand and then a Squier Affinity brand. I've read some negative comments both here and other places about Squier Affinity being crap but no real explanation on why or what makes them that way. Looking for some honest feedback and no fanboy/hater comments.

I just want to be as informed as possible while I'm searching for my #2.

Thanks guys!!
Second bass from a GSR200?
You already have a beginner bass. You should upgrade to an intermediate or pro bass. Save your money.
 
Anyone can make a bad bass and anyone can inconsistantly make a good bass.
I own a lot of different brands of basses that range in purchase price from about $75 to $8000. I can tell you from my first hand experience that an Affinity Jazz 5 purchased off the rack will most likely look, sound, feel and play about as good as any other Fender jazz bass in the store and in some cases even better. I'll put my Squier Affinity Jazz 5 up against any MIA deluxe jazz 5 (yes I have one of those also) or a MIM any day of the week. With the exception of the logo on the headstock I doubt any non bass player looking at the two side by side could tell you which one was the Affinity, same goes for feel and sound. They are a great bass at the price.
But, and this is a big but, like ANY Fender - do not buy it sight unseen. This isn't a MM or G&L product where there's lots of consistancy from unit to unit. Fender has made lots of progress but they still have variation (in sound and quality) from instrument to instrument.
I'd suggest you go to a local GC or similar guitar store and try a new MIA Fender, find the best sounding one you can, then play it along side the MIM offerings and then take which ever one is better of the two and play it along side the Squier offerings. Keep the one that sounds best or if they all sound and feel similar enough, keep the cheapest one.
I've done that very thing a number of times and more often than not I end up walking out of the store with a new Squier and a pocket still full of cash.

Warning - I don't have any experience with the Squier Affinity basses that come pre packaged with a cheap amp in a box but I hear they use different woods and other components so they may not be as good. In fact I sometimes wonder if those are what gives Squier it's bad name.
 
I've been a private teacher in bass and guitar for about the past 10 years. I used to dread the Christmas holiday shopping season for one reason: The number of Squier Packs (which are Affinity Squiers) that would start showing up in my studio. They almost always required heroic efforts on the part of me and my techs to make them playable.

But, as another poster noted, it depends on the year, and from what I've seen, the more contemporary Affinity line has stepped up the quality of both materials and workmanship.

Still, if anyone utters the word "Affinity" to me, my first thought is, I hope you know exactly what you're looking at and can accurately assess how the instrument is put together and how much work it might require to make it play right.
 
I have an Affinity Jazz V that I really like a lot.

But I have played a lot of Affinity 4 stringers and have yet to find one that I like. Most seem to have neck issues. I'd recommend looking at used instruments and if you find one that feels good for around $100, buy it.

On the other hand you can easily find used MIM Fenders for $250-300 and get a lot better bass.
 
Wow - lots of hate in the thread for the Affinity model. Had a real long response typed up - figured why bother. I will say no neck issues whatsoever in the past 5-6yrs of ownership for the ones I've owned. Capable of the same low action & neck pockets as tight as any similar CNC'ed jazz bass hanging on the wall in a big box store.

Been reliable as hell - on many, many gigs & laid down better sounding studio tracks than most basses I've owned. Are there better basses out there? Yes.

Is the Affinity model a good, solid, bare bones passive jazz bass? Yes.


Note: Can't speak on the 4-string version or P-bass, my experiences are with the Jazz V model. YMMV.


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Wow - lots of hate in the thread for the Affinity model. Had a real long response typed up - figured why bother.

Is the Affinity model a good, solid, bare bones passive bass? Yes.


Note: Can speak on the 4-string version or P-bass, my experiences are with the Jazz V model.


So as far as 4 string models go you have no basis for recommending them or criticizing posts regarding them?

Yes, I've seen some Affinity 5 strings that had better necks than MIM 5 strings. But the OP is looking for a 4 string, and many here posted based on their experience with them, which in many cases, has not been good. I think their posts were valid.
 

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