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what’s the consensus on hiwatt/hiwatt style amplifiers??

Dec 10, 2020
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i've been lunged into a state of now taking an interest into hiwatt amplifiers, and naturally when i come across a brand that intrigues me i also want to know everything about their reputation and peoples thoughts of them as bass amplifiers. any people have any experience, opinions, or otherwise anything to say about hiwatt? surprisingly, hiwatt isn't super talked about here on TB so i thought of making my own effort here and now because maybe i can get somewhere with it.
 
British tube amp. Very popular in England.

DR201 - DR405 KT-88 power tubes

US Distribution is in Austin, TX last I knew.

Vintage are very expensive!

Sound FANTASTIC if don't want an SVT type of grind in your Bass tone. Clear, warm and high headroom.

I've owned a '73 SA200 Slave Power Amp that I used an Ashdown preamp with. Nice!

You may want to checkout REEVES tube amps made here in the US.

C225 - C400 KT-88 power tubes
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Kinda look like HIWATT, too!
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My C225 and 4 x 10" cabinet

Hiwatt is nice, Reeves is also very nice and more reasonable for a new amp starting @ $2700 for the C225 that is patterned after the DR201. The C400/DR405 will make you bleed from your orifices!

Guy Berryman from Coldplay uses Hiwatt

You should grab it if you can afford to buy it, maintain it and will actually use it... :bassist:
 
Vintage Hylight era Hiwatts were made to incredible quality standard and are highly regarded. They were very expensive when new, and continue to draw premium prices on the used market.

Years after the Hylight era, the name was bought and passed around. Some of the companies that used the name put out products that had QC and reliability problems. You need to know what you are looking at as cosmetically they all look pretty much the same from the front of the amp.

A new company secured the name a few years back and has indicated a commitment to restoring the brands reputation. I doubt it's possible to make Hylight quality amps at anything close to competitive prices, but AFAIK the new company is better than the previous company Music Ground.

Hiwatts are generally regarded as very HiFi, but IMHO that is a bit misleading because the amps have a pretty strong baked in characteristic sound that you can not dial out. IMHO they were tuned more for max clean power than pleasing OD characteristics. Great pedal platforms, but in my experience if you want natural drive from the tube output section, there are far better choices. Typically the preamp is relatively low gain, but you may be able to get a bit of drive if you really crank up the inputs. If I remember correctly I can get a bit of drive out of the preamp for my 79 DR103, but not my 76 DR201. I tried a few days ago and the DR201 remained clean with the input wide open. Late 70s preamps have a bit more gain. I can also get a bit of drive out of my Reeves 400 preamp.

Reeves and Hi-Tone both make very good, near clones of the Hylight era amps. My perception is Hi-Tone is truer to the original designs, and Reeves makes slightly more modernizations. Reeves makes a 225 and 400 for bass. I believe Hi-Tones biggest amp is 200.

Here's a wiki: Hiwatt - Wikipedia

Also MHuss built a website that has lots of great info. Mark Huss Hiwatt Amplifier Pages

I believe Mark Huss previously ran Vintage Hiwatt Restorations, which merged into Hi-Tone. I believe Mr Huss is Hi-Tones resident tech and Vintage Hiwatt Restorations eventually was shuttered after Hi-Tone really started getting on solid footing.

The first DR201 shown on this page is actually my 76. MHuss Hiwatt Amplifier Pages - Detail Views

I bought it off Ebay from one of the Hi-Tone's owners, which led to my purchase of a pair of Hi-Tone HT4121 cabs.

The current company that owns the Hiwatt name prototyped a DR405 with 8 output tubes. I believe it benched over 500W clean, but was never brought to market. I have read that Hylight made some 8 tube DR405s, but they were not reliable and tended to experience catastrophic failures. Normal DR405s only have 6 output tubes.
 
The Hiwatt style amp/tone stack is now my absolute favorite of everything I have tried. To me it has a really raw, punchy tone that accentuates the natural characteristics of the instrument. I also desire very loud but clean amplification and they set the standard for that. I'm not sure why they aren't more visible these days but everyone that knows about them seems to love them and there are a lot of high quality clones that get great praise.

I've been wondering why you don't see a smaller, lighter-weight version of a Hiwatt with a modern class-D power section. I have a Nordstrand StarLifter pre-amp which can get you in the tonal territory with the "vintage" contour and my Neural DSP Quad Cortex has some very good Hiwatt models on it. I would think it would be easy enough to build a tube pre-amp using the same circuit with a different power amp section but I'm not amp engineer.

All that being said I was able to get a Science Amplification Mother last year which is based on the Hiwatt circuit but also has its own thing going on. It's a total monster and there's something about it that makes it feel really alive when you plug into it. It could all be in my head but it's unlike anything else I've played through.
 
I play some guitar. When I was a bit younger a music store I used to go to had a HiWatt stack (2 4x12 cabs and a 100 watt head) and they let me play it (loud). A really great sound. They were really clean amps but when you opened them up there was this singing quality that was really nice.
 
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The Hiwatt style amp/tone stack is now my absolute favorite of everything I have tried. To me it has a really raw, punchy tone that accentuates the natural characteristics of the instrument. I also desire very loud but clean amplification and they set the standard for that. I'm not sure why they aren't more visible these days but everyone that knows about them seems to love them and there are a lot of high quality clones that get great praise.

I've been wondering why you don't see a smaller, lighter-weight version of a Hiwatt with a modern class-D power section. I have a Nordstrand StarLifter pre-amp which can get you in the tonal territory with the "vintage" contour and my Neural DSP Quad Cortex has some very good Hiwatt models on it. I would think it would be easy enough to build a tube pre-amp using the same circuit with a different power amp section but I'm not amp engineer.

All that being said I was able to get a Science Amplification Mother last year which is based on the Hiwatt circuit but also has its own thing going on. It's a total monster and there's something about it that makes it feel really alive when you plug into it. It could all be in my head but it's unlike anything else I've played through.

I have a mother as well. I built a trinity triwatt (DR103 style preamp with a 2x 6V6 output) a while back and liked playing through that at home so I was on a quest to buy or build a 4x KT88 DR201 style amp. Was considering the reeves or a modern reissue, but would have preferred to find a vintage if I was buying. Building one was lowest on my list but I hadn't ruled it out. Found the mother for sale locally before anything else and it's been my main gigging tube amp since. Amazing build quality and awesome sound. Doesn't have the hiwatt aesthetic of that's what you want though.

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i've been lunged into a state of now taking an interest into hiwatt amplifiers, and naturally when i come across a brand that intrigues me i also want to know everything about their reputation and peoples thoughts of them as bass amplifiers. any people have any experience, opinions, or otherwise anything to say about hiwatt? surprisingly, hiwatt isn't super talked about here on TB so i thought of making my own effort here and now because maybe i can get somewhere with it.

I don't about about the Hiwatts that are being made now, but my Hiwatt Custom 100 I had in the 70s was the best amp ever and the only pice of gear I've regretted selling.
 
My first big rig was a Hiwatt 100 head with straight and angled 4x12 cabs. Awesome sound for both guitar and bass. At that time I didn't even have a drivers licence so it was insane as I had to get lifts to anywhere out of the house I wanted to use it. Still not sure what happened to that rig but it was a long time ago.

About 20 years back I picked up an old Hiwatt 50 head in mint condition for next to nothing, used it for a bit then sold it on for much the same as that big old gear was too heavy and a bit dated. A couple of years later prices went crazy...
 
i've been lunged into a state of now taking an interest into hiwatt amplifiers, and naturally when i come across a brand that intrigues me i also want to know everything about their reputation and peoples thoughts of them as bass amplifiers. any people have any experience, opinions, or otherwise anything to say about hiwatt? surprisingly, hiwatt isn't super talked about here on TB so i thought of making my own effort here and now because maybe i can get somewhere with it.
I saw Ronnie Lane with the Faces play through a Hiwatt many times in the early 70's and remember the tone as great. I think the Reeves sounds great also but is tuned more for a bass. The HiTone may be more of a true representation and I called them and they had a 200 watt head and told me to come by and try it.
 
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I have a Reeves C 225, best amp I have ever had, unless something bad happens to me, it is going to the grave with me.
Clearer sounding & punchier than most other amps & this one goes to 2ohms, just can't be beat.
Use it now with KT120's for a bit more punch & volume..... glorious.