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When Did I Become Old? (Long Post)

I took the week off to do some yard work before the summer is over and my wife was joking with me as we ate breakfast, “When was the last time you listened to new music?”

I laughed and said “Well, I listen to a modern jazz radio station (Jazz FM 91 The Grooveyard, which plays more jazz fusion/jazz-funk kind of music. I highly recommend it if that’s your thing) and they play newer stuff. I also listen to Esperanza Spalding, and other newer jazz stuff.”

She laughed, “That’s old people music. When was the last time you listened to new music? When you started being a musician did you ever think you would not be on the cutting edge of music?”

I had to think, and she was right. What got me to buy a bass was learning Pink Floyd’s bassline to “Money” on my acoustic 6 string, but the band I really cut my teeth on were the Arctic Monkeys and at the time (their first and second album) were really different to everything I had heard before and it was real refreshing. At the time, I was playing towards joining a band of that style.

My music taste evolved as I got older to 70’s Prog Rock (Rush, King Crimson, Yes, etc), older Rock/Metal, Classical Music, and Jazz. I pretty much despise all new music (except for new releases of the older styles I like). In my teens, I also loved 90’s hip hop/rap, but feel that hip hop has also tanked since around 2005.

Anyways, after I ate breakfast, I went outside to do my yard work. I turned on this Grooveyard station on my iPhone. A few hours later, my wife came out to see how I was doing, and joked around about listening to this old music again.

A minute later, a real sweet neighbour we have (a married, Christian couple in their 60’s, give or take), came over to talk to use and the wife screamed, “Oh, you’re jazzing it up back here!” And she put her hands in there air and started dancing.

After they left and my wife went in, I couldn’t help but feeling like my Dad. I’m 34 years old, and while that number sounds old to my old teenage self. I don’t feel old at all. I’m immature as hell. I still watch Marvel movies and saw the new trailer for Bumblebee (the new Transformers spin-off movie NOT directed by Michael Bay), and was very happy to see OG Starscream will be in it.

So, when the hell did I turn old? If I had to pin-point it to an age. I’d say it was around the time I turned 30...

I’m curious if generations before me found themselves listening to similar type music they grew up on, or matured and listened to older music around the time they turned 30; or if the good music of the day kept their interest in new music?

My wife is my age and she loves new music, but we don’t listen to music the same. She listens it to it passively as she drives or works out. She likes uptempo stuff that gets her dancing. I don’t dance. I listen to stuff that inspires my musical endeavours.

Thoughts?
 
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I'm 53 and grew up on KISS/Styx/Abba, basically anything they played on the radio.

But, IMO, back when I was a teen the local "hit" station played all those groups. You'd hear Joe Walsh, followed by Abba, then maybe the Starland Vocal Band (remember them? :D), then maybe KISS and Little River Band. It just seemed looking back that the stations were not so segmented. It was all just called "rock" and that was it. These days you won't hear Five Finger Death Punch and Taylor Swift on the same station, but that's what it was like back when I spent hours every day with my FM radio.

Maybe that's why my playlists now cover everything from Muse to KISS to Bob Marley to Abba to John Prine.

And because we have kids I hear the stuff they listen to and hear some of the new stuff coming out. My older two are in their 20's and I can relate more to what they listen to than our 15 yr old.
 
So this is a pretty interesting article, describing an analysis that says the music you connected with as a teenager basically sets your musical tastes for life: Our musical tastes peak as teens, says study.

Honestly, though, don't beat yourself up about liking what you like and not liking what you don't like. My dad was born in 1920, but he spent most of his adult life listening to opera and classical music. Stuff that was written and popular sometimes hundreds of years before he was born! You're not required to like current music, and let's face it: most of it is absolute rubbish, as was most music in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, etc.

There are some good contemporary rock artists around today. I love Spoon, the Decemberists, the Shins, Nate Rateliff, and others. That doesn't make me "young." It just means I'm a 59-year old who likes some contemporary music.
 
i agree with RichardW - ya like what ya like. it doesn't make you old or young - i had neighbors in their early 20s who listened to mostly stuff from the early '70s.

i'm 61, and i like music from now and then. back in the early '70s, i loved alice cooper, frank zappa, some zep and creedence, captain beefheart, joni mitchell's ladies of the canyon and a variety of music including pop, electronica, show tunes and some classical, folk, country and jazz. my first album was a gift from a friend - beatles 65, and that same year someone gave me the monkees first album.

but there's also imo lots to love about music from the '80s and '90s, including grunge, punk and alternative, and i like lots of stuff from the last twenty years including korn, muse, and one of my fave tunes from the last few years is uptown funk, i like mackelmore's thrift shop, gangnam style is fun, and earlier in this decade couldn't get enough of system of a down's toxicity - great album.
 
You're older--not old. Big difference.

Basing your (or anyone else's) perceived age on your taste in music makes no sense

Right now, on my very own iPod, I have music ranging from Scott Joplin ( 1895) all the way up to 2018 releases--rock, metal, jazz, classical, avant-garde, country---it's all there. I defy anyone to determine my age based solely on the contents of my music library.

As far as being on the so-called "cutting-edge", I think someone like B.B. King ( just one example) could have told you "that ain't nothin' but a two-bit jive".
 
Honestly I'm not a big fan of what newer music I hear, but then I don't seek out newer music, either. Our teenage son finds music on YouTube or through TV and movies, unlike me when I was his age where I would listen to FM rock & pop radio all of the time. In fact, our son has started gravitating towards 80's pop and new wave lately (Journey, Styx, Devo, The Cars, etc.) and even pulled up Yes's "Roundabout" on my iPod the other day because he'd seen a reference to that song in a YouTube video. As @ONYX said, we're not old, just older. :D
 
Most people eventually settle into some manner of musical rut. Honestly, I'm not convinced that's necessarily a bad thing. As we age, we develop certain tastes in music that we prefer over others. That used to be called discrimination, and was until recently considered a good thing ("discriminating taste"). At 52, I certainly fit in that category. I've listened to a lot of music in my life. Some of it was good, but most of it was garbage. This is not new to rock-n-roll or jazz or r&b. The same was true of music in past eras. Many of the most popular composers of the baroque and classical eras are names forgotten to history, while many of the ones whose names endured died penniless. There has always been more bad music than good music. Most of that stuff rises to the top for a few minutes, then sinks into obscurity. I, personally, don't feel bad (or old) at all because I dislike it.

There are plenty of artists making new music that I find outstanding. Some have been around for awhile, and others are new on the scene. Fortunately for us, this inturwebs thingie has made it incredibly easy to find the good stuff.

For what it's worth, my Wife gives me grief all the time over the music I listen to, too. We have divergent tastes. I love progressive/symphonic rock/metal, baroque and classical, modern funk/jazz. She's more into mainstream rock and new country.

People like what they like. There's nothing wrong with that.
 
You may have an aversion to autotuned or Pro Tools composed music, I'm pretty sure that I do...

I'm as young a 57 that you'll ever likely to meet, my musical tastes are all over the map but I gravitate to 50-60's Jazz, British Invasion & Prog Rock.
On the wedding circuit while warming up the PA I'd often put a Wes Montgomery CD on as background before go time, a few time folks would come up to me ask "Who is that?.." & be acting as they've never heard real music before?.. There's nothing wrong with enjoying music that you can hum..
 
When I am not near a TV (I love to watch live music in my living room) :
I choose familiar and comfortable stuff for the most part when in the car.
In my kitchen, I listen to a new alternative station with a good mix of old alt and newer stuff, so I get a little new exposure there.
In the car, I try to force myself to listen to college radio but meh. I grew up on late 60s/70's AM Top 40. I gotz to have that melody and a lot of music that I am exposed to doesn't have it.

But when at the TV, I watch a lot of live festivals. I get exposed to more popular newer stuff that way. I now can tolerate Chvrches, Haim and omg Dia Lupa 'Be The One'.....meow

Force yourself to listen to newer stuff.

Evolve or be antiquated
 
Just so I don't feel old I try and watch MTV Live festivals and Jools Holland. To me music has been watered down so much it's pretty much just been left to two chords! Either that or just a beat with singing/rapping over it. I just don't get it and sure as heck can't get into it. It's all so mindless simple. (Especially when you grew up on Kansas, Rush, Zeppelin, Chicago and the like.) It seems that modern country is kind of the rock-n-roll of today just with a southern twang!

The funny thing is my Wife is always like; If you don't like it, why are you watching that crap?
 
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Music used to be a huge part of how people identified themselves. I don't feel that's quite as true anymore.

Listening to music requires little to no investment of time or money now. As a result you can find artists from many genres and time periods that appeal to you without having to go all-in on anything.

You can listen to old jazz and not be an 'old jazz guy'. It's just a type of music you enjoy. No big deal.

It's a good time to be a music fan, believe it or not.
 
I don't know about you but, by the "time" I finished reading through all of your post "I was older". I knew I should have taken that Evelyn Wood speed reading course.
YouTube provides a good environment visually as well as musically to checkout all types of genres and time periods of material.
I've found stuff I couldn't believe was still available.
 
The realization that I came to years ago was that everything is relative. Remember the stories of when 'Rock' was born in the 50's and how the older generations hated it? My music teacher in high school was a big band musician and absolutely hated rock and bands that consisted of a small number of people. He used to half heartedly joke that Elvis should have stayed as a truck driver.
I take my queue from my Mom, she used to say that whoever the artist or genre there is always a song or two worth listening to.
The band I liked a lot in their early days was Escape the Fate. And now one of their singers has a new band called Falling in Reverse and they have some good songs.
I have not gotten in to any new Jazz or Blues but the few tunes that I have heard in those genres have been good.
But in the end listen to what you like, makes you happy or inspires you. That is why there are so many different types to choose from.

Thanks for reading
Best of luck
 
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