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When your "cheaper" bass is your #1

I think this goes more to the thread title than the OP’s actual post, but my cheapest bass is my "go-to" for gigs / situations where I’m concerned about possible damage: Like where I have to set up off stage because it’s too small for everyone, and as such the potential exists for patron traffic to knock the bass over.

It’s a Heartfield DR5 – actually a pretty fantastic bass. But I only paid $500 for it, less than half what my other basses or worth.

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Same here, with my Heartfield Prophecy II.
 
I am calling the two that get the most play #1 & #1.2...I can't stop playing #1.2 and it was cheaper, so I guess I answer "yes". #1 is a Precision w/ flats that's just SOOOOOOO gooey and great but it's not for every situation in which I find myself. #1.2 because of the minimal pre-amp works really well for most everything. What IS #1.2 you ask? B E H O L D~
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Need to put a price range on “cheap” !! Say $500 new.
Me? For a while. I have a pre Covid Sterling Ray4. I bought as a beater to play at this rough open mic we host. It is an excellent copy. For several years it was my main player! Outside the open mic. Leaving nicer basses at home!
 
Hello Talkbass,

I was just thinking about something... my "former #1 bass" that I'm kinda trying to semi-retire lately seems to be the one I grab far more than my #1 bass that I often call my Excalibur (which is lighter in weight, more ergonomic, allows me to "think less, jam more," and is a far more expensive and far higher quality instrument; quite possibly the best I've ever owned). Maybe it's because my body is more used to that"old" bass (which is far less expensive and lower end than my Excalibur bass, even with all the crazy mods) since I spent over a decade with it. That bass simply does NOT want to retire or even semi-retire (and is perhaps the best sounding bass I've ever owned, despite being "lesser" than other basses).

But still, it made me wonder...

Anyone else have that kinda existential crisis that the bass they grab for more often is their less expensive bass? The #1 isn't the most expensive bass in the stable? Does it bother you in that... you know how sometimes your brain has a hard time justifying that something less expensive ("lesser") gives you more/better satisfaction than something that's more expensive ("more better")? How do you deal with that?

I know TalkBass has had this conversation before, but...
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This one. My first bass. Scratch and dent discount 1995 MIM jazz bass. Upgraded with fender custom-shop noiseless pickups and more recently black hardware.

since the blackout it has been my go to, but i regularity swap through all my bases.
 
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Hello Talkbass,

I was just thinking about something... my "former #1 bass" that I'm kinda trying to semi-retire lately seems to be the one I grab far more than my #1 bass that I often call my Excalibur (which is lighter in weight, more ergonomic, allows me to "think less, jam more," and is a far more expensive and far higher quality instrument; quite possibly the best I've ever owned). Maybe it's because my body is more used to that"old" bass (which is far less expensive and lower end than my Excalibur bass, even with all the crazy mods) since I spent over a decade with it. That bass simply does NOT want to retire or even semi-retire (and is perhaps the best sounding bass I've ever owned, despite being "lesser" than other basses).

But still, it made me wonder...

Anyone else have that kinda existential crisis that the bass they grab for more often is their less expensive bass? The #1 isn't the most expensive bass in the stable? Does it bother you in that... you know how sometimes your brain has a hard time justifying that something less expensive ("lesser") gives you more/better satisfaction than something that's more expensive ("more better")? How do you deal with that?

I know TalkBass has had this conversation before, but...
Well...
In my case? There are quite a few caveats and "yeah-buts" going on. Like, for instance...
"Expensive" as in - what the bass sold for new? Or "expensive" as in - what I actually paid for it? Since my basses are all left handed - and a lot of new lefty basses cost more than a new right handed one does - does that count? What about the scalper prices I paid for my 2 Rickenbacker basses when there were no new ones to be had, because RIC stopped making them - and hinted that they might never make them again? And, stuff like that... 🤔 However...
No, it doesn't bother me that my #1, go to, most favorite bass, is not the one that cost the most when it was new. But, it's far from the least expensive bass I own - new price or used. It's my '73 Rick 4001. I bought it - and the '01 COY Rick 4003 - in the middle of the "no new lefty Ricks" period; from 2006, to about 2011. It cost me about 60% more than what a new lefty Rick would have cost - if there were any. As did the '01 4003...
In any case, I have several basses that cost more than the 4001 did. The '13 Gibson Thunderbird cost quite a bit more (Gibson has a very hefty Lefty Surcharge). So did the '17 Hofner 500/2 Club Bass; German Hofners have quite a Lefty Surcharge, too. There are several others that cost more than the old Rick did...
On the other hand, I have used basses that cost me a whole lot less than the original owner paid for them. My '06 Carvin LB-20, for example, cost it's original owner about $1600. I bought it 9 years later - apparently never played - for $360; shipping included. Since it was built to be a Rick substitute (and does one helluva good job of it, too), it could easily replace the 4001 as my favorite. Well, if the neck was just a hair skinnier, anyway...
So... bottom line? No, the fact that my "Favorite" bass is not the most expensive bass in my 30 bass strong Herd. does not bother me at all. I like - and play - all of them; they just... are what they are...:whistle:
 
Not my cheapest bass, but not by much, still a cheap budget bass, my #1, without any doubt or ambivalence:

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A lowly but very much beloved, just 28.6" scale, 5 string Ibanez GSRM25 Mikro Bass, with the surprisingly quiet stock J bridge pickup wired directly to the output jack socket.

Tuned in tenor bass, A standard tuning, that is A to F, or like the 4 upper strings of a 6 string bass in regular B standard tuning, plus a high F.

Perfectly cut nut, and perfectly leveled frets, right from the Cort factory in Indonesia where it was made.

Sounds amazing, and got an incredible amount of sustain, and quite effortlessly and comfortable to play.

Features a Poplar body, and a Maple neck with a Jatoba fretboard.

If I ever get that kind of money to spare I would have custom bass made, based on this bass.

Some sound samples:

My basic "clean" tone:


Modulation and reverse delay:


Overdriven:


And even more processed in a mix:

 
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Hello Talkbass,

I was just thinking about something... my "former #1 bass" that I'm kinda trying to semi-retire lately seems to be the one I grab far more than my #1 bass that I often call my Excalibur (which is lighter in weight, more ergonomic, allows me to "think less, jam more," and is a far more expensive and far higher quality instrument; quite possibly the best I've ever owned). Maybe it's because my body is more used to that"old" bass (which is far less expensive and lower end than my Excalibur bass, even with all the crazy mods) since I spent over a decade with it. That bass simply does NOT want to retire or even semi-retire (and is perhaps the best sounding bass I've ever owned, despite being "lesser" than other basses).

But still, it made me wonder...

Anyone else have that kinda existential crisis that the bass they grab for more often is their less expensive bass? The #1 isn't the most expensive bass in the stable? Does it bother you in that... you know how sometimes your brain has a hard time justifying that something less expensive ("lesser") gives you more/better satisfaction than something that's more expensive ("more better")? How do you deal with that?

I know TalkBass has had this conversation before, but...
You say you gravitate to your old bass which is better in ergonomics because your body is used to it and don't play your new bass which is better in ergonomics?

In my humble opinion, only one of them can be better in that regard, not both.

I have played a ton of high quality, high price basses that were supposed to be superb to my bass in every regard, and always put them back and said "maybe from an objective viewpoint, but not for me".
Then I wondered if having used this one bass exclusively for more than a decade has hardwired my brain in a different way and every other bass feels inferior just because it's different from what I'm used to play - and then I found a bass that is better in every regard (according to my hands and gut feeling), and it pretty much retired my other bass on the spot.
I later bought another bass which quickly became my #1, despite costing less than half as much.
 
Anyone else have that kinda existential crisis that the bass they grab for more often is their less expensive bass?

I have almost 15 basses at home, most of them are expensive and top notch ('71 Fender Precision, '51 Custom Shop, Manson JPJ, Spector Euro4 LX, Music Man Stingray, three Hofner made in Germany, Yamaha TRB6p, Yamaha BB3000), but it's been 10 years since I got a cheap Harley Benton JB75 (wonderful two-pieces ash body, rosewood fretboard, chunky neck profile exactly like 70's Fender Jazz basses), that I used for a couple of years with it's stock Wilkinson pickups, for some years with a set of EMG J, and then went back to it's stock Wilkinson).

it's still, after years and after acquiring so many "top notch" instruments, one of my favourite.

I've had a LOT of Jazz Basses over the years, from USA Standard to American Vintage, Elite, Deluxe ecc, and this one simply survived, while the others went away after a while.

it weights 4kg, balanced, with perfect fret-job, the neck is stable and I need to set it up only if I change string gauge. it sound like a good Jazz Bass, I gig it since 2015, went on planes to play outside Italy, and never had an issue.

I "re-payed" it with the first gig it did :P
 
I clapped together a frankenbass from parts I had laying around after finding a body to match the heel of a G&L tribute neck I bought on a blowout sale. Total cost of all parts was about $250 (used SD Quarter pounder, Omega bridge). This bass has ended up being my primary or backup bass for every gig I have. It weighs far less than 8 lbs and punches like a mule. The only weird thing was I had to put a strap extender on the horn because the body is actually too light to balance.
 
@el murdoque

The ergonomics thing is complicated. See with my "old" bass (the swirl one), it wasn't quite "love at first play." I really had to grow into that bass, but am glad I did because it really does feel like a great pair of jeans that were stiff at first, but with some time, effort, and love, are now pretty comfy.
Yet with my "new" bass, it started feeling really good almost immediately. I've only had it for about 5 months, yet can "think less, play more" with it as if I've had it for far longer.

And both feel different yet are both ergonomically sound. One has a 42mm nut width with a rounder neck carve (slightly chunky feel) whereas the other has a 38mm nut width and a much thinner and slightly flatter neck carve.

I love both, both are keepers. And I like having two basses (in case one's in the shop or something, I can play the other). But if could only have one, I know which one I would pick.