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Where is the love 6.0?
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My Shuttle 6.0 has more than lived up to every expectation that I had for it. I'm very happy with mine and I can't imagine selling it. I suppose other people have other needs.
KO
KO
I am not selling mine. I swapped out the ruby pre-tube with a JJ and it is a killer combination with my Schroeder 1215L. Larger than life, well almost!!
It stays here alongside my G-K 1001RBII..
It stays here alongside my G-K 1001RBII..
I am running the same rig! Havent needed to push the master past 11am yet. Using my Carvin BX1200 as backup in case I need to really blow some doors off!
I had an LMII (returned it)---decided I wanted to try the Shuttle. Tried it and liked it and have had it since last Spring. Recently I got a chance to buy another LMII and do a real A/B. My A/B proved to me I made the right choice. So returned the LMII for a 2nd time and will keep the Shuttle for good. and at worst it might be a backup someday to another rig.
Note--I also retained my backup (a NEO pak) over the LMII. I also think the Carvin BX1200 looks like an excellent backup (big gig rig)
Note--I also retained my backup (a NEO pak) over the LMII. I also think the Carvin BX1200 looks like an excellent backup (big gig rig)
- Aug 30, 2003
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Could you give more details about your comparison? I know the basics (no mute, limited DI, etc on LMII), I'm referring to tone and headroom.
Thanks
I like the tone of the Shuttle better---more alive--not so sterile.
The LMII I think has too much sub bass---personally don't think it's EQ is the best for gigging/cutting through and seems to muddy things up a bit.
Also, my own non-scientific testing proved to my satisfaction that the Shuttle has more usable headroom than the LMII. Some may disagree but in tests I did using roughly comparable EQ settings the Shuttle was about 1 or 2 db louder. (and that's NOT running the Shuttle into clipping--slight limiting while allowing the LMII to also clip a bit).
I was not happy with what I was hearing the LMIIs extreme sub-bass do to my speakers in terms of extension (Delta Neo 12s). However, if you are running bigger speakers (I was running two 12's) that might not be noticeable. I did however try the comparison with a 4-ohm sub that I have and still the Shuttle was slightly louder.
To those that think otherwise I don't know what to say. Still think many confuse the limiting light with a clip light. Also, think that with no clip light--the LMII allows folks to pretend they aren't clipping easier. Also, the volume comes on early with the LMII but from 3/4 it doesn't seem to increase volume that much. Would be easy to confuse that with headroom. I suppose given more LMII-friendly cabs--the results could be different. Also, if the LMII had the benefit of a well-built limiter/compressor, it might also eliminate the gap.
Bottom-line, I felt I could play the Shuttle closer to the edge without worrying about SS clipping (which I could easily get the LMII to produce on peaks). The peaks on the Shuttle just sound like what a tube amp does when overdriven. But to reiterate---the tests I did were with the Shuttle barely into limiting and the LMII barely into clipping.
The LMII I think has too much sub bass---personally don't think it's EQ is the best for gigging/cutting through and seems to muddy things up a bit.
Also, my own non-scientific testing proved to my satisfaction that the Shuttle has more usable headroom than the LMII. Some may disagree but in tests I did using roughly comparable EQ settings the Shuttle was about 1 or 2 db louder. (and that's NOT running the Shuttle into clipping--slight limiting while allowing the LMII to also clip a bit).
I was not happy with what I was hearing the LMIIs extreme sub-bass do to my speakers in terms of extension (Delta Neo 12s). However, if you are running bigger speakers (I was running two 12's) that might not be noticeable. I did however try the comparison with a 4-ohm sub that I have and still the Shuttle was slightly louder.
To those that think otherwise I don't know what to say. Still think many confuse the limiting light with a clip light. Also, think that with no clip light--the LMII allows folks to pretend they aren't clipping easier. Also, the volume comes on early with the LMII but from 3/4 it doesn't seem to increase volume that much. Would be easy to confuse that with headroom. I suppose given more LMII-friendly cabs--the results could be different. Also, if the LMII had the benefit of a well-built limiter/compressor, it might also eliminate the gap.
Bottom-line, I felt I could play the Shuttle closer to the edge without worrying about SS clipping (which I could easily get the LMII to produce on peaks). The peaks on the Shuttle just sound like what a tube amp does when overdriven. But to reiterate---the tests I did were with the Shuttle barely into limiting and the LMII barely into clipping.
