It's interesting he uses the Hartke aluminum cones. I read an article about them a LONG time ago. It mentioned that they sounded terrible when practicing by yourself (compared to other bands) but when used WITH a band they cut through all the noise the guitars are making. And yeah, its the mids that may sound bad when alone, but really put you solidly in the mix.
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This is what has always worked for me
This is of course if your rig is primarily to monitor & the FOH mix is some one else's problem
This is of course if your rig is primarily to monitor & the FOH mix is some one else's problem
I upgraded a couple of kustom 15" angled floor/FOH monitors and to my surprise they make GREAT bass cabs. I've thought about just throwing one in front of me as a floor monitor for larger gigs. I could paint up a cardboard box to look like a big Mesa stack behind me to impress the crowd.This is what has always worked for me
This is of course if your rig is primarily to monitor & the FOH mix is some one else's problem
I have seriously considered building a large, empty fake cab to put my real cabinet on top of.
Add some hinges and it could doubles a gear box....
Add some hinges and it could doubles a gear box....
This is a great thread, that goes without saying. OP, do you use ear plugs? I use the silicone ones and find that they eliminate most of the noise i.e. echo in my bands practice area and also in our theater. They help a bunch.
I too play in a loud metal band with two 100 watt tube full guitar stacks and a mammoth (and loud) drum kit. My Mesa 400 with 6L6's (that's 200 watts for the unlearned) drives four Hartke XL cabs, two 410s and two 115s. It just slays when it comes to volume, even out-does an svt6-pro Ampeg.
That said, if you like the sound of your amp, you just need another cabinet. A matching one should be enough. That and amp settings should get you where you need to be.
Raz
I too play in a loud metal band with two 100 watt tube full guitar stacks and a mammoth (and loud) drum kit. My Mesa 400 with 6L6's (that's 200 watts for the unlearned) drives four Hartke XL cabs, two 410s and two 115s. It just slays when it comes to volume, even out-does an svt6-pro Ampeg.
That said, if you like the sound of your amp, you just need another cabinet. A matching one should be enough. That and amp settings should get you where you need to be.
Raz
Earplugs. Simplest, cheapest solution. Plug your ears and you'll be amazed the things you can hear and feel.
Plug em up and turn your amp up til you feel it. Should be plenty loud and your front of house man can scream and yell at you guitarist to turn down while you aimlessly work scales at sound check.
Plug em up and turn your amp up til you feel it. Should be plenty loud and your front of house man can scream and yell at you guitarist to turn down while you aimlessly work scales at sound check.
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It really comes down to adjusting the EQ on your amp. You need to boost your mids and highs and roll back the lows. You might not like the way it sounds when you are playing by yourself but it should be a lot better when playing with the band.
Have the guitards do this with their 412's. I'd bet that they have them aimed at their legs.
I've made guitards do this, then they say, "but now it's too loud". Yeah, no s***.
That's the point.
For rehearsals, my band got a Jamhub. We each get our own headphone mix, and to anyone not plugged in, the loudest instrument by far is the singer's voice.
Live, our best experiences have been running both guitar and bass direct with no backline, hearing ourselves only through the monitor wedges. Guitarist uses a load box/digital cab simulator (Invalid Link Removed) instead of a cabinet. We are all very much in favor of moving to IEM at some point.
We are definitely in the heavier end of the metal genre (prog-ish, death-ish, djent-ish), so that's certainly no excuse.
Live, our best experiences have been running both guitar and bass direct with no backline, hearing ourselves only through the monitor wedges. Guitarist uses a load box/digital cab simulator (Invalid Link Removed) instead of a cabinet. We are all very much in favor of moving to IEM at some point.
We are definitely in the heavier end of the metal genre (prog-ish, death-ish, djent-ish), so that's certainly no excuse.
As a bass player that has used IEM with no back line, I'll say that the ONLY way I'd do it is if I had a raised floor area to stand on with a butt kicker bolted to the bottom of the floor.
Well, unless we were using one of those $5,000+ IEM systems.
Well, the Jamhub is pretty much the same as a live IEM setup - no speakers, all sound headphones only - and we all really prefer that to our old rehearsal setup with loud cabs and all sound everywhere.
I love Jamhub. But it works really well because it gives you the same flexibility that the expensive IEM systems give you. Take away the individual mixes and you are stuck with, well, most of the time, crap.
