Which 210 combo for me?

[jumbosilverette]

I play in a trio, no drummer, 2 acoustic guitars, singers. I play both active (Warwick, Cort) and passive (Fender, SX) basses. Signal is always DI in performance (small venues, less than 300 and some outdoor festivals under 1000) and will be used for home rehersal. The tone I like is old school not HIGH FIDELITY. I'm NOT a slapper or a popper. The music is traditional Hawaiian veering into folk, and I'd like play some blues in the future.

Would you go with this 320 watt Eden combo or this Link Removed
Eden is more expensive by about $200.

I've played the Carvin and it sounds nice, maintains definition but is capable of good bottom end. I played AN Eden -- it was a 410 combo and sounded great but is BIG overkill for what I need. Where would you guys put your money?

 

[JMDT]

That isn't even a real Eden. That being said the Nemesis 210 combo sounds pretty nice.

 

[René_Julien]

Have you had the chance of trying the Ashdown Klystron C210H-500 combo?

I tried one once and got one of the nicest well rounded folk sounds out of it for an electric bass.


As your two choices: I would prefer the Eden. But I can't say more about experience owning and using it.

 

[jumbosilverette]

Np, I haven't tried the Ashdown, C'th. I'm on the web hunt for one now. Thanks.

 

[p-nut95]

EDEN EDEN EDEN!

 

[JimmyM]

I had a 2002 Nemmy combo for about two weeks. I liked it pretty well, but sold it because I discovered Markbass To my ears, Nemesis and Eden are two completely different worlds, with the Nemmy being more old school and the Eden being very bright.

 

[jayarroz]

I picked one up and I like the nemesis, the guy who said earlier that its not an Eden...I don't know what he's saying. So they are made in China, you don't hear a lot about these things crapping out. I get to play through lots of "high end" gear and I like the nemesis. I actually choose to use it more often lately because it doesn't have a million tone knobs. One - its the indian not the arrow, and you can make any bass head sound good. Two - having two many knobs is not great when playing and all you need to do it take out some mids or treble, etc. I've seen Christian McBride, Chris Woods, Reid Anderson, and Ahmad Jamal's latest bass player all play through crappy backline gear and they still sound like they sound! If you get money though get Glockenklang, but you can see why I would say that

 

[jumbosilverette]

natty bumpo

 

[CraigG]

I picked one up and I like the nemesis, the guy who said earlier that its not an Eden...I don't know what he's saying. So they are made in China, you don't hear a lot about these things crapping out.

It's kinda like the Squier is not a Fender drivel that some guys can go round and round about for months! And, even though Eden is contracting out to China to build them, the Nemesis is still a great amp (just don't lick the paint - it probably has lead in it!).

 

[jumbosilverette]

bumpity bump
A decision must be made in the next 24 hours. C'mon guys, I've seen more replies to 'which color pickguard looks better with my black jazz'!?

 

[quickervicar]

My Nemesis 210 has been toneful & trouble-free for 10 years now. I love that thing! Lightweight & punchy, but is still fat when you want it to be. After 10 years with it I've finally found my perfect tone: flat, with a bit of Enhance.

And don't worry about the lead paint--it's anodized!

 

[Bassbasixx]

I had a Nemesis 2x10 combo way back when they first came out, it had some nice tone but not sure it was loud enough for what I was doing at the time and when pushed it would get hot and shut down, but that was there first edition. I have heard they since improved and took care of that problem. Look on Harmony central for reviews that may help you http://search.harmony-central.com/s...heet=default_frontend&site=default_collection

 

[Jimmy Blue]

A used Eden Metro would be a good option. In the future if you do work with a drummer the Metro can hold it's own.

 

[cnltb]

I tried those and went for Glockenklang "soul" 2x10.

 

[Jeff K]

Markbass CMD 102P. Great tone, and not heavy to carry. It's a little more expensive than the two you asked about. Mine was $999.00 about 7 months ago.

 

[BeauZooka]

Forget the combo. Get a Avatar 2x10 and a Markbass Little Mark II. Great sound, cash left over, expandable, very light.

 

[quickervicar]

Deals are out there. I picked up my Nemesis as a store demo model for $100. Too bad the store was closing their doors. I could have used more deals like that!

 

[Michael Vee]

Jumbo, if you can, consider the SWR Redhead. I had a Super for a number of years and thought it was pretty amazing. SWR has revamped it, and the new one looks even better. Your time frame might not allow you to look for a used one.

The Redhead would be a great bet for the sort of musical setting you are describing.

 

[Nedmundo]

I haven't played either one, but I'd probably get the Eden Nemesis. I have tried several of the new Nemesis combos, including the RS212, and they sound fantastic. Even the lesser N series sound great, miles beyond the cheesy Silver series from a couple years back. They have a thick old school tone, which I dig.

Plus, it's 14 lbs. lighter than the Carvin, very compact, and can be set on its end for a vertical array. Also, I've heard players use older Nemesis 210 combos on stage, and they've sounded really good.

Nothing against the Carvin. I've never tried one. But based on what I know, I'd probably go Nemesis.

 

[TJBass]

I've owned Hartke, Ampeg, Crate, Avatar (good stuff) and Peavey gear but have always come back to Carvin. I've owned the R600 series I head with a Carvin 4x10 cab, which I later changed to and Avatar 4x10 cab. I also owned a Carvin ProBass 500 full stack with a 4x10 and a 1x15. Its durable stuff, never had a lick of problem from any of it. Sold them only due to needing the money. Right now I own and gig with an RC210 which has a great DI built in that I run to the PA and I need nothing else. If I wanted I can pull the head out of the cab, which I may do if we ever get a drummer. But for now I am set. I would suggest the Carvin over the Nemesis.

Flame on!