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Which Short Scale Bass?

IME, weight is an important factor in the comfort and ergonomics of a bass, but not the only consideration—balance, shape, and mass distribution are also factors. I have played some lighter basses that were not necessarily more comfortable than other, somewhat heavier instruments.

Just as we wouldn’t refuse to date someone over x lbs., we should not say the same concerning bass guitars.
 
Gee! That is really nice looking.
Bronco neck on a Strat guitar body or bass body?
(I’m not good at recognizing stuff like that.)

It does look very “right” proportionally.
And you did a real nice job with the rest if it.
I’d love a shortie with that body style.
Fender Modern Player SS bass comes to mind, but they are insanely pricy now, if you ever see one.
It's a custom Strat body I had made. I did the first prototype on a stock body, but the forearm contour under cut the bridge too much. I routed the neck in to almost to the inside of the Strat neck pup, which pushed the bridge all the way to the tail. That gave it a nice body/neck transition
 
The band I am in now is a rock band. everything from the 70's through the early 2000s. I am looking for a solid body bass right now if I can find one that works.

I would like to get a semi-hollow body bass down the road, but not right now as a main player.

I also had not posted my budget, I would like to keep it at $500 or less.

Might be a touch more than $500, but take a look at Chowney Bass SWB-1. Not sure on the weight though.
 
I just looked at the web site for the semi-local (45 miles away) that I use. They have some short-scale basses in stock. I will contact them tomorrow and have them get these basses in the store from their warehouse to try. The basses they have are:
  • Ibanez Talman
  • Squier Jaguar
  • Gretsh G2220 Junior Jet
  • Fender Mustang PJ
  • Jackson JS1X Concert Bass
I will probably be able to try these in the middle of the week. I just wish they had an Ibanez Mikro that I could try.
 
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IME, weight is an important factor in the comfort and ergonomics of a bass, but not the only consideration—balance, shape, and mass distribution are also factors. I have played some lighter basses that were not necessarily more comfortable than other, somewhat heavier instruments.
This ^

I picked up an Ibby at a Center for Guitars the other day and thought it was a shortie.
I could more comfortably than with most basses, reach the end of the neck.
Turns out it wasn’t a shortie. And to throw another wrench in the works, it was a Fiver!!

I plugged it in and it didn’t play. Turns out it was active without a battery, (or dead battery.)
I tried two other actives... same deal.

I think I’ll start a flame thread about the Guitars that are at a Center but have no batteries. :woot:

See what I did there to avoid being accused of advertising? :smug:
 
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I started playing bass again after many decades of playing guitar. Bought a Squier Jaguar SS and loved it. Light, nice neck (no dive), inexpensive. Had the chance to get a Fender Mustang PJ and what a difference in sound! Yeah the bridge p-u's of both could use some help but I just use a different setting on my Sans-Amp and it works.
 
I have been dealing with neck and shoulder problems for about 1 1/2 years from an auto accident. My bass is currently a mid 90's Ibanez SR-400. I am very happy with this bass and really don't want to change.

Because of my neck and shoulders, is is sometimes quite uncomfortable having my bass hanging on my shoulders. I have tried many different straps for this, including the different slinger straps and the duostrap. The duostrap works the best, but I am thinking of looking at getting a short-scale bass to see if it would be a little lighter.

The short scale bass I have found are the Ibanez Talman, Ibanez Mikro, Fender Mustang PJ, and the Squier Jaguar. I am hoping to find one of these close enough to where I can try them, but I live in a rural area and there are not that many options close to me.

Are there any other short scale basses I should look at. I want a PJ configuration and I am partial to jazz style necks.

I would also appreciate any comparisons of these basses if you have experience with one or more of these basses.

Thanks

I guess you’re trying to address two different problems: weight, and reach. A shortie will help with the latter, but not all will help with the former. I own three short scales (Fender Mustang PJ, Chowny SWB-1, Landing Fretless) and I’ve tried several others. There can be a big difference in weight between models and brands. The Chowny feels noticeably heavier than a Gretsch Junior Jet, for example, and the Mikro is super light... you can really feel the difference.

On the basis of what you say about wanting a PJ, I’d recommend either a Mustang PJ or a Mikro. The Mustang weighs more than the Mikro (but doesn’t feel too heavy for me... I’ve not weighed it but I’m guessing around 8lbs) and IME is a better bass all round. I’ve upgraded my Mustang with Seymour Duncan quarter pounders and swapped out the (cheap and unreliable) stock toggle switch for a better alternative. It sound great and is really comfortable to play. The Mikro would be a good alternative (even shorter, and lighter, than the Mustang) but the parts are at the budget end of the spectrum so don’t be surprised if you feel the need to upgrade. If you’re prepared to move away from a PJ, I recommend the Gretsch Junior Jet.... really good bass for not much money, and lightweight.
 
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I normally wouldn't suggest an option that is lacking some of the OP's requirements, but nobody has mentioned the one short scale bass I've ever had GAS for. The Reverend Wattplower, Mike Watts sig model. I only mention this bass because as stated earlier, MW switched to short scale basses due to physical vs sonic reasons. It's definitely on the pricier side of short scales but it's very well appointed.
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I have looked at Reverends before (my semi-local music store sells them). but, unfortunately, right now a Reverend is just not possible due to my budget.
I'm sure the Reverends are worth every penny but that's quite a few pennies.

The SX Jazz I bought for my son is a fairly decent bass, definitely not a toy. Not only is it short scaled but the body is downsized as well. If it were to be my gigging bass, I would upgrade the tuners, pups, pots for sure, and might as well do the bridge as well. Luckily they are so reasonably priced it wouldn't be ridiculous to put in the investment.
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I'm sure the Reverends are worth every penny but that's quite a few pennies.

The SX Jazz I bought for my son is a fairly decent bass, definitely not a toy. Not only is it short scaled but the body is downsized as well. If it were to be my gigging bass, I would upgrade the tuners, pups, pots for sure, and might as well do the bridge as well. Luckily they are so reasonably priced it wouldn't be ridiculous to put in the investment.
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Lots of folks have done it. The SX short-and medium-scale basses are nice. I own one 32"er.
 
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Fender Modern Player SS bass comes to mind, but they are insanely pricy now, if you ever see one.

Seriously. I have one and have been looking for another as a backup if I ever gig it, and they are scarce and expensive these days! Of all the short scales that I currently own, this one really is the most comfortable on my shoulder for long periods of time. Mine also has fantastic low action that makes it so easy to play long sets. The only physical drawback is that it only has 18 frets. And if anything happened to it, it would be difficult and expensive to replace.

However- with just a couple mods and a good set up, my Mustang p/j’s are *almost* as comfortable (for me) to play. There is a slightly longer reach than the Modern Player SS, but the Mustang p/j’s are plentiful and not too expensive. Just getting rid of the neck dive with ultralight tuners and a high mass bridge helps the balance (and comfort) a lot... though modding it is an added expense to keep in mind. And actually, I think the Mustang p/j’s sound a bit better than the Modern Player SS; just comparing the stock pickups.

Before jumping back to 4 strings for a potential band, I had been playing my 5 string Birdsong Hy5 (fantastic bass!)... so the Mustang fretboard feels narrower to me. But coming from an Ibanez, like the OP is, it could feel chunky as others have described. I’d say for sure spend some time playing one before buying. I also have a new (to me) Gretsch Jr Jet 2202. That neck feels chunkier than the Mustang p/j. But the reach is very slightly shorter. As far as comfort goes, so much depends on the individual player! Be aware, OP, that some Gretsch Jr Jets can be on the heavy side, too. Just pick up a few and/or have the seller weigh it for you if you’re considering one.

And... if the short scale bug bites you... IMO it really is worth thinking about Birdsong eventually! :)
 
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Seriously. I have one and have been looking for another as a backup if I ever gig it, and they are scarce and expensive these days! Of all the short scales that I currently own, this one really is the most comfortable on my shoulder for long periods of time. Mine also has fantastic low action that makes it so easy to play long sets. The only physical drawback is that it only has 18 frets. And if anything happened to it, it would be difficult and expensive to replace.

However- with just a couple mods and a good set up, my Mustang p/j’s are *almost* as comfortable (for me) to play. There is a slightly longer reach than the Modern Player SS, but the Mustang p/j’s are plentiful and not too expensive. Just getting rid of the neck dive with ultralight tuners and a high mass bridge helps the balance (and comfort) a lot... though modding it is an added expense to keep in mind. And actually, I think the Mustang p/j’s sound a bit better than the Modern Player SS; just comparing the stock pickups.

Before jumping back to 4 strings for a potential band, I had been playing my 5 string Birdsong Hy5 (fantastic bass!)... so the Mustang fretboard feels narrower to me. But coming from an Ibanez, like the OP is, it could feel chunky as others have described. I’d say for sure spend some time playing one before buying. I also have a new (to me) Gretsch Jr Jet 2202. That neck feels chunkier than the Mustang p/j. But the reach is very slightly shorter. As far as comfort goes, so much depends on the individual player! Be aware, OP, that some Gretsch Jr Jets can be on the heavy side, too. Just pick up a few and/or have the seller weigh it for you if you’re considering one.

And... if the short scale bug bites you... IMO it really is worth thinking about Birdsong eventually! :)
Oh you have the MPSS. I am envious. Outta be a law. One to a customer. :smug:
The eighteen fret thing doesn’t really bother me. Anything after fifteen is for chords anyway. :woot:
I have the Jet as well. Maybe not the most comfortable SS out there, but for what you pay it sure “sings”well.
I hear what you say about the ‘Stang. Personally, I just don’t care for the body style. That’s just me and how my brain is (mis?) wired.
Yeah I have some idiocincracies that keep me near one side of the bell curve or the other. :help:
But if I wasn’t me, I might be you! At least I’d have the short Fender. ;)
 
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Oh you have the MPSS. I am envious. Outta be a law. One to a customer. :smug:
The eighteen fret thing doesn’t really bother me. Anything after fifteen is for chords anyway. :woot:
I have the Jet as well. Maybe not the most comfortable SS out there, but for what you pay it sure “sings”well.
I hear what you say about the ‘Stang. Personally, I just don’t care for the body style. That’s just me and how my brain is (mis?) wired.
Yeah I have some idiocincracies that keep me near one side of the bell curve or the other. :help:
But if I wasn’t me, I might be you! At least I’d have the short Fender. ;)

It was a mean thing Fender did, discontinuing the MPSS so quickly! There was only one song I was learning for a Queen tribute band that hit a note higher than the frets would go, lol. Other than that, the 18 frets is no biggie to me, either.

Yep, I also like the way the Jet sounds! :thumbsup:

Ha, the last “what short scale should I get” thread I read is why I bought a Jr Jet in the first place! This one has me looking at Mikros again! LOL. This place is dangerous to my wallet. There’s a Mikro with a flat walnut finish, a gig bag, and a tuner on eBay for $179.99 + free shipping right now.
 
I really like my PJ Mustang, feels great and the sound is relatively even all over the bass. I did change the tuners to ultra lites, though, as others in this thread have noted, because there was some neck dive and it bugged me. (Side effect: the new tuners are also much more accurate.) I also replaced the pickups, not so much because of the sound, but to eliminate the J single coil buzz. I wanted a short scale that didn’t feel little and got it. Aesthetically I couldn’t be happy with an Ibanez but if it suits you, it is probably a great practical choice.
 
I just looked at the web site for the semi-local (45 miles away) that I use. They have some short-scale basses in stock. I will contact them tomorrow and have them get these basses in the store from their warehouse to try. The basses they have are:
  • Ibanez Talman
  • Squier Jaguar
  • Gretsh G2220 Junior Jet
  • Fender Mustang PJ
  • Jackson JS1X Concert Bass
I will probably be able to try these in the middle of the week. I just wish they had an Ibanez Mikro that I could try.

I'm sure one of those will work for you.

About the Mikros - I've had two of them.
The first had a problem with the saddle screws. The second one was OK.
They sounded really good, but they were a bit small for me, and I decided I wanted to stick with the
standard 30" short scale size.

I've had a pretty good amount of short scales, and currently have nine of them - yes, hoggy, I know.
I could be happy with just two though - both Mustangs. A traditional one, and a P/J.
I'm also pretty fond of the Squier Jaguar SS's. They're inexpensive, pretty lightweight, and make a
good modding platform.

Some of the ones I've had that turned out to be not the best fit for me were an Epi EBO, a couple of Cort SS's,
a Gretsch G2202 (single pickup), a Hagstrom HB-4, and a Washburn SS. Can't really remember the rest of them.
A couple that I tried, but didn't buy are the Wattplower and the Supro. They were nice, but I didn't think they
offered enough more to justify the extra cost.
Overall though, I'm happiest with the Mustangs.
 

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