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Who has Direct Sales?

you can buy directly from Sadowsky, but I am sure its the same price that you can find in retailers

most manufacturers that sell off their sites sell at MSRP so its really not worth it with most manufacturers.

Think about it;
Why on earth would any retailer carry a product from any manufacturer who would undercut their retail pricing by selling direct at a discount? :confused:
 
It's more that why would a manufacturer undercut their own dealers? The dealers get the product out to more people to SEE, FEEL, and TRY than a catalog. Carvin's prices aren't so phenomenally low as the company purports. Nice stuff, but not earth-shaking and the prices aren't so far off of street-prices for SIMILAR stuff. Carvin has to invest a lot of money in advertising, promotion, and sales that is part of the money that goes to a dealer in a more typical environment. Bottom line is that there are costs both ways, and it's not a huge price difference.

Factor in the historically low resale value of used Carvin and it's possibly not any better or worse a deal than other gear. My personal experience is that the stuff was worth about what you paid for it. Their $500 guitar was no better than other stuff I played at the $500 real-world price. At the time Carvin was suggesting that it compared to instruments that listed for $1000 (and actually sold for $750). They just weren't that good. But compared to other stuff that would have a street-price of $500, they were right in the market.

John
 
i would think that retailers could sell a product for a little more because of convenience for the customer. it's in-stock now, you can try it now, and take it home now.

Possibly you underestimate the miserly nature and the lack of loyalty of most consumers.
I personally believe that the average retail buyer would have absolutely no qualms about wasting the retailers time by getting questions answered and demo'ing the product, then say they want to "think about it", leave and order the item direct from the manufacturer for the discount and to avoid sales tax.
More importantly, I'll betcha 99.9% of retailers would agree with me.

It's more that why would a manufacturer undercut their own dealers?

They wouldn't... Unless they wanted a warehouse full of dealer returns to also sell direct, and even possibly a breach of franchise lawsuit!
 
It's more that why would a manufacturer undercut their own dealers? The dealers get the product out to more people to SEE, FEEL, and TRY than a catalog. Carvin's prices aren't so phenomenally low as the company purports. Nice stuff, but not earth-shaking and the prices aren't so far off of street-prices for SIMILAR stuff. Carvin has to invest a lot of money in advertising, promotion, and sales that is part of the money that goes to a dealer in a more typical environment. Bottom line is that there are costs both ways, and it's not a huge price difference.

Factor in the historically low resale value of used Carvin and it's possibly not any better or worse a deal than other gear. My personal experience is that the stuff was worth about what you paid for it. Their $500 guitar was no better than other stuff I played at the $500 real-world price. At the time Carvin was suggesting that it compared to instruments that listed for $1000 (and actually sold for $750). They just weren't that good. But compared to other stuff that would have a street-price of $500, they were right in the market.

John


I totally agree. Carvin stuff is on the cheaper side and sounds good, but there's better stuff out there that isn't sold directly. Used Carvin is a much better buy as Carvin doesn't hold value at all.
 
Possibly you underestimate the miserly nature and the lack of loyalty of most consumers.
I personally believe that the average retail buyer would have absolutely no qualms about wasting the retailers time by getting questions answered and demo'ing the product, then say they want to "think about it", leave and order the item direct from the manufacturer for the discount and to avoid sales tax.

yeah, i can see that. makes sense. i guess it depends on the price difference.
 
Buying straight from a manufacturer limits your option to only what they offer. Which is never good. Having been installing sound systems for years now, professionally, I can tell you for sure that there is no single manufacturer that has the answer to all.
If you need any help figuring out the best for you, drop me a line. Or we could even do it here on the thread so other people would benefit.

Take care
Gil