I hate all the "Peavey amps (instrument, PA, etc.) are what damaged their rep" talk. Peavey was built on amps. Some may not have the tone I am looking for, but the VAST majority were built amazingly well. I still have a TKO 80 for practice, and a little pot cleaner is all it takes to get rid of the scratchiness. And the CS line of power amps were built a lot better and saw fewer failures than almost anything available at the time. PA sound? Try comparing the upper-end Peavey speakers, amps, mixers with comparable products from other brands, not bottom-end Peavey against mid to high-end JBL/EV, etc. Pull apart almost any Fender or Gibson product from the 80's and compare the build quality to anything Peavey...
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Why are old Peaveys so cheap?
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Hmm. Nice shape, nice color (may be refinished) upgraded pickups, hardshell case - $199. That's not a steal, but it's a decent deal.
That's a super nice looking bass. I'm not looking for a bass right now, but if I were, I'd buy it.
If you make something that looks like a Fender in just about every detail, but isn't a Fender, and costs a ****-ton less, what's the logical/common-sense conclusion? "Cheap knockoff." That will be a hard marketing barrier to overcome.
NOTE: This is not a judgment based on Peavey quality at all. (My only amp is a 25 year old Peavey, through which I run a $1600 guitar. . . so go figure.)
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Why are old Peaveys so cheap?
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Supply and demand ... there is not much demand
Also ugly headstocks ...
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Supply and demand ... there is not much demand
Also ugly headstocks ...
I'll relate a little story here...
In the mid 80's I was helping a band doing sound. They had a 20-something channel Peavey board. Well, as I'm standing there, this drunk chick leans over to tell me something, loses her balance and catches herself putting her hand down on the board... and snapping off a row of PLASTIC-SHAFT potentiometers rather easily. Best engineered? Puh-lease!!!
Different band, we're loading some Peavey combo amp in, and the thing started breaking apart at the cabinet seams. Either the cab or the baffle were apparently some kind of particle-board, and we had to glue it back together and then still treat it very carefully.
And, I've personally owned a few Peavey amps, and three different times, I got that scratchy-pot thing where you had to be very careful where you set the knob, and even then, it would drop (or gain) sometimes after a few minutes. I think I have one of those downstairs right now, in fact.
So, no, we;re not trying to "slander" the brand. We have seen quite enough to know that it's NOT just our imagination, it's our experience.
In the mid 80's I was helping a band doing sound. They had a 20-something channel Peavey board. Well, as I'm standing there, this drunk chick leans over to tell me something, loses her balance and catches herself putting her hand down on the board... and snapping off a row of PLASTIC-SHAFT potentiometers rather easily. Best engineered? Puh-lease!!!
Different band, we're loading some Peavey combo amp in, and the thing started breaking apart at the cabinet seams. Either the cab or the baffle were apparently some kind of particle-board, and we had to glue it back together and then still treat it very carefully.
And, I've personally owned a few Peavey amps, and three different times, I got that scratchy-pot thing where you had to be very careful where you set the knob, and even then, it would drop (or gain) sometimes after a few minutes. I think I have one of those downstairs right now, in fact.
So, no, we;re not trying to "slander" the brand. We have seen quite enough to know that it's NOT just our imagination, it's our experience.
I bought my Peavey Accellerator 5 in 1996. I love that bass, and still have it. 35" scale, active pickups. I was not crazy about the bass and treble, and added one more knob and put a 50k stacked pot and wired an EMG bass/treble booster wired to the neck pickup and an EMG mid booster wired to the bridge pickup and then used the original bass and treble for general adjustments. VERY versatile.
The only problem is that the low B is too low output, regardless of the type of strings or adjustments. PV must have recognized the problem, because all subsequent 5 string models that use VFL active pickups use the wider version. I'd be playing that bass yet as my main bass if the low B wasn't so weak. It doesn't make it unplayable, but all my other basses have a more balanced B string.
I've had that bass since 1996, and despite it rarely being in a case, and no special care taken, there is still not one scratch on that hard, metallic red poly finish. The white pearl pickguard has mellowed nicely, but other than that, it's still like new
The only problem is that the low B is too low output, regardless of the type of strings or adjustments. PV must have recognized the problem, because all subsequent 5 string models that use VFL active pickups use the wider version. I'd be playing that bass yet as my main bass if the low B wasn't so weak. It doesn't make it unplayable, but all my other basses have a more balanced B string.
I've had that bass since 1996, and despite it rarely being in a case, and no special care taken, there is still not one scratch on that hard, metallic red poly finish. The white pearl pickguard has mellowed nicely, but other than that, it's still like new
The look of a headstock shouldn't sway a person's decision if the rest of the bass is perfect to the player.
If I played a bass that felt perfect and it felt right, I think I'd have a hard time calling the look of the headstock a deal breaker ...
BUT I have seen boutique bass builders use similar headstock shapes that resemble a Dean and I HATE that, so I do understand. I see a Dean and I immediately think $99 dollar bass, and nothing else.
Headstock-itis is true I guess...
why not?..
if you dated a chick (or a guy) and they were great , other than having a nose 1/2 mile long...would you still DATE THEM?
allow folks to have their own personal priorities in their choices of bass, this very often does include colour, body, shape, pickguard colour, pickup shape, fretboard and headstock...
if you dated a chick (or a guy) and they were great , other than having a nose 1/2 mile long...would you still DATE THEM?
allow folks to have their own personal priorities in their choices of bass, this very often does include colour, body, shape, pickguard colour, pickup shape, fretboard and headstock...
Its a good thing I just read this or I'd be in trouble with my wife. I definitely would have bought this ! I love that color !
CBNJ, did you buy it ?
Its a good thing I just read this or I'd be in trouble with my wife. I definitely would have bought this ! I love that color !
CBNJ, did you buy it ?
Yup! Scheduled to arrive 2/20. I'll make a NBD thread for it then.
I put my MIK Fury V up for consignment and then after reading this thread, I'm getting a touch of seller's remorse and may have to go get it back.
My Dyna Bass is available for pickup since Thursday. I will either grab it today or tomorrow.
Question: Why is the Fury considered a pro level bass, but the Patriot is not? The only thing that seems different about them is the pickup.
Question: Why is the Fury considered a pro level bass, but the Patriot is not? The only thing that seems different about them is the pickup.
Are you serious? "I've seen drunks and blockheads abuse Peavey gear. Peavey is crap".
Some of these posts are beyond belief.
Unfortunately, so have I.
Although I wouldn't say it was crap, I WOULD say it was deemed not "roadworthy." I'd hope they quit using plastic-shaft pots by now.
Although I wouldn't say it was crap, I WOULD say it was deemed not "roadworthy." I'd hope they quit using plastic-shaft pots by now.
As opposed to what? Carvin? Ibanez? Gibson? Every boutique brand? All of whom had "uglier" headstock designs than Peavey.
The Patriot was built to a price point as a no-frills, basic, affordable bass guitar. Much like the Fender Mustang, although the Patriot was 34" scale. The Patriot is a quality instrument, well made, great sounding. It was "entry level" from a marketing standpoint.
That will come as a surprise to the millions who have used/use Peavey gear on the road.
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