If it ain't broke and gets the job done: a no-brainer!GK Backline 600. Not megawatt, and more than 2 pounds, but fills any room I've been in so far. I keep thinking I should replace it but, why?
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If it ain't broke and gets the job done: a no-brainer!GK Backline 600. Not megawatt, and more than 2 pounds, but fills any room I've been in so far. I keep thinking I should replace it but, why?
Really loved this post! I may need to find and Ampeg SVT to sit down and mess with one day and hear all the tones every one is describing. I don't need one so not looking to purchase, just to gain knowledge of what other people are looking for, hearing, and enjoying. Are you running anything in addition to your rack comp?My three favorite amps are the Ampeg SVT CL through either an 810 cab or 410 hlf, GK 400RB, or Trace Elliott ELF through a GK neo 212, 410, or both.
For the Ampeg, I like a clear but full and rich sound. Bear in mind my settings reflect playing live with a full band setting, not in my bedroom or recording. My bases of choice are normally passive four or five string jazz or p basses with SS roundwound strings.
I will run my master gain anywhere from 7-10, and bring the pre gain in to set the stage volume. I push the pre gain as little as possible. I roll the bass off, never more than 12oclock, normally 9 0clock. I push the mids, centered at 800hz, and roll the bass in for warmth. I roll the treble off a touch, to keep it from clanking, but enough for an edge and some presence.
The GK cabs I have do have a most definite mid bump, which I like. I can set the rb400 a little flatter because of that, but run the pre gain/post gain close to the same as the Ampeg. I will roll the boost in at times to get that growl. No more that 5 on the amp though. I cut the gigs back as they difinitely will get harsh fast. This amp/cab combo sounds great pushed as it compresses a touch like a tube head does that GK growl is a nice and controlled grunt when you want it. The DI is ok, but not the best. It will work for foh nicely though.
The TE elf I love because of its simplicity. It blends the old and new TE sounds together in my opinion. I like the three bands of eq and where they are placed frequency wise. On this I run the pre gain a little hotter, from 9-12 o'clock, and run the post gain no harder than 12 oclock. So far I haven't needed any more volume than that. Bass is set around 9-10 o'clock, midrange around 3 o'clock, treble about 10-11 oclock. This amp has a deep, almost Tubey baked in sound. If I had to describe it, I would use the words thick, full, and meaty, but not tubby at all. It plays extremely well with the GK 212 and 410 neo cabs, where the two compliment each other immensely.
The real sleeper with this amp is the DI. It's post gain and amazing sounding. By far one of the best signals I've used to send to foh. It's my favorite di sound so far. I'd like to add I do use a rack mounted compressor in front of the elf, to compress the signal a touch to keep the on board compressor from effecting the sound too much. I normally run a soft knee and either a 4:1 or 3:1 ratio. Nothing clamping, just enough to tame a little heavy handing when I'm digging in.
So those are my approaches and reasoning behind my favorite amp/cab combos. You wanted descriptive, here ya go.
Does this combo not only get a good Ampeg tone but also get others easily? I haven't looked much at the Tech 21 pre's out there before.
Really loved this post! I may need to find and Ampeg SVT to sit down and mess with one day and hear all the tones every one is describing. I don't need one so not looking to purchase, just to gain knowledge of what other people are looking for, hearing, and enjoying. Are you running anything in addition to your rack comp?
Yep. Me too. Lots of us old guys going this route.these days: i've chosen on the basis of weight and portability
Between all the various threads on power amp class and all the differences of opinion, I have read a lot of descriptive words that really tell me nothing about what people are hearing. In my experience there are so many variables that dictate how a head sounds. Instrument and cab pairing, eq settings, desired amount of drive heard.
For me, my GK MB210-II and 210MBE-II are lightweight and loud enough for any stage I will play. I'll do some testing with it later, because honestly there is a specific frequency range that it has a bump in with the eq flat, that led me to choose it. It's not down at 35Hz, but it is what was the most pleasing out of all the MB combos to my ears when playing up and down the B string. I'm assuming it is somewhere around 60Hz but don't know for sure, so I'll run some sine waves through it. I'll add more to this thread later.
So what does everyone use? More importantly to me, why do you use it? What contributes to the sound you hear and love from your amp?
Same here. Got to know GK in high school and when I found a lightweight combo that was also powerful for a good price, I knew it had to be mine. Pairs wonderfully with my L-2000.For me, my GK MB210-II