Now, I'm not knocking on people who ogle over vintage basses saying they're "Beautiful!" (see 54' P bass thread), but when I see vintage basses, the last thing I'm thinking is beautiful, and more along the lines of "it looks like they took the ugliest piece of wood, carved it into a mass produced shape and screwed a bunch of metal plates on it"... Why, might I ask, do so many of you consider something so...unrefinined, something that was made when crafting was much less sophisticated and technically worse than today, something that would be considered a piece of crap if it were made today, beautiful? I mean, you all excuse it because it's vintage...sure its worth a lot because of its age, it has a particular tone because of its age, but that don't got anything to do with looks! I'm not knocking anybody, I just don't understand. I mean if it sounds beautiful to you okay...(I think it sounds old and boring), but looks wise? Lets be honest. To clarify what I'm wondering: Is the bass only beautiful because it is old? So if a pristine vintage bass that looks like ti had been cyrogenically frozen for 60 years came about, would it still be beautiful even if it looks, like you say, brand new? What is the point of a vintage bass that looks new? I was a tad unclear: I'm talking about old basses period, not their designs so much.