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Why do so many hate ska?

#61
I don't know if Op Ivy would be considered ska. I would consider them punk personally. BUT... there is no confusion for as young as the were the wrote some amazing conscious music. Oh and the self titled was, a compilation of three previously released E.P.'s and it came out after the band broke up.
 
#64
i blame caucasians :D

we take everything, speed it up and call it ours.
its not our fault. our ethnic instruments were lutes and harps..thats just a suckfest so we look for rhythm and the proceed to ruin it.

ever hear eric clapton and jimmy buffet do a reggae... :/
 
#66
ZombieBRAINS!! said:
I love op ivy, but they are def not ska
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They were ska-core.....

Yes, they were'nt all ska by any means,,
but they definetely had the sound on alot of tracks...

But in my humble opinion, They really created they're own style of Music.....
Roots, Punk, Ska, and put there own cali spin on it...

They did not sound like the Specials, and the did'nt sound like the sex pistols... Hence SkaCore...

Operation was just the ****... and always will be...
the song writing and there unmatched street emotion...
will be in our hearts and minds forever...
 
#67
It's just like everything else... It was started in Jamaica...
and then other bands out of the uK and Us caught on and
made it more popular....

Sorta like with jazz,, it was definitely made and created by black musicians,,,
but did'nt become truly popular until white musicians brought it to the maintream..
but that dosent mean that white jazz musicians,, did'nt bring alot to the table...
 
#68
Hahahaha, oh ska... I can just comment on the ridiculousness of the late 90's ska explosion and those kids were straight NERDS. Annoying and reminded me of the personification of pixie sticks and jolt cola. Nice kids though, just awkward. I think, like MOST music-related sub-cultures, the hatred was focused at the people and not the music... take a look:

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#70
MattyBass said:
You are a Jackass.... Zombiebrains....

I think I mentioned the rancid thing... and also matt freeman DID NOT go as matt freeman back then he went as matt mcall just as tim went as lint.... So take you're attitude and shove it..

and by the way you were five years old.. and in bum****, MD when this album came out... so don't try and act like you are some authority... and be rude to people who can obviously take you to school.. Talkbass is suppose to a nice forum.. where bassplayers can talk... Not a place for you to try and 1 up everybody.. So get over yourself...
and try and ad something of value... Rather than Talkin shiot...
This first bass lesson was free... the next one you have to pay for...
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LOL at the internet tough guy, Ive been listening to op ivy for 13yrs, and less you forget you are only 4 yrs older than me. So dont try and act super informed. Ive been into punk for quite a while and your post made you seem like a total tool who actually thought Op ivy was ska, which it isn't BTW in case you havent realized that.

but with all that said I dont want to argue musical semantics, we both like the same music, what we call it doesn't matter.

but I must say Salisbury md is hardly bum**** its roughly an hour away 3 major cities B-more, DC and Philly all of which are better than san D;) <-- notice the wink, dont get all aggro on me lol
 
#71
Din Of Win said:
Hahahaha, oh ska... I can just comment on the ridiculousness of the late 90's ska explosion and those kids were straight NERDS. Annoying and reminded me of the personification of pixie sticks and jolt cola. Nice kids though, just awkward. I think, like MOST music-related sub-cultures, the hatred was focused at the people and not the music... take a look:

scene.jpg
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man ditch the hawaiian shirt and tie and replace the porkpie with a fedora and that's me in 1995 :bassist:
 
#78
MattyBass said:
They were ska-core.....

Yes, they were'nt all ska by any means,,
but they definetely had the sound on alot of tracks...

But in my humble opinion, They really created they're own style of Music.....
Roots, Punk, Ska, and put there own cali spin on it...

They did not sound like the Specials, and the did'nt sound like the sex pistols... Hence SkaCore...

Operation was just the ****... and always will be...
the song writing and there unmatched street emotion...
will be in our hearts and minds forever...
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and if they weren't SkaCore then how come the above pics of a typical
Rudeboy has Op Ivy refrences... Maybe because they WERE Ska Core Genius... Op Ivy stood for unity, tolerance, and not being racist.... Op Ivy Is one of the biggest names in Ska/punk sorry you just got the news.... so what are they then a Polka band....???
Exactly... SKACORE

Valiant effort though.... keep trying...
I accept paypal for the lesson....

Hey in the name of Op Ivy...
I will be tolerant of your ignorance..
I swear....
 
#80
The clash used far more ska/DH/reggae influences in their music than Op ivy, and they have always been known as a punk band, so I still maintain that Op ivy is a punk band with ska influences. Other bands with similiar styles are also known solely as punk bands Citizen Fish, LOC, chocking victim, Rancid, Nofx none of these bands have ever been defined as ska core, so it is impracticle to define Op ivy as ska core when other bands with even more dominant ska influences still maintain "punk" genre status.
 

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