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Why do so many hate ska?

#41
This seems like a bit of a strange thread.. the same question could be asked about rock, country, metal, hip-hop etc. People like what they like and dislike what they dislike.. that's true of any genre.

Personally I'm not a fan of reggae or ska.. nor do I have any interest in blues or jazz.. and I kind of hate country and hip-hop.. so what?
 
#44
Time Consumer said:
I think everyones already hit the nail on the head with this issue, the oversaturation of horns and cheesiness, less groove than its reggae roots. Its not all bad, forgive me if im wrong but isn't Sublime considered ska? I remember some horns in their stuff, they groove like crazy and are very popular so yeah.
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its a misnomer that ska bands can't groove. There are some heavyweights in Ska...but there's also some light weight.
 
#46
Sublime is about as much of a ska band as Blondie was a hip hop band. Okay, perhaps that's an overstatement, but I really wanted to say it anyway. Point is, Sublime dabbled in ska, but I'm not sure they can rightly be called a ska band. They broke into the mainstream right around the same time that ska went mainstream. At the time, most people only had a loose understanding of the term, and a few of Sublime's singles seemed to fit it. The problem is when you listen to the rest of their catalog. Like I said, they certainly drew a lot of inspiration from ska, but they had so many weird stylistic things going on that it's not so simple to just say, "Sublime was a ska band." They seemed to draw a lot more from reggae than they did ska. And of course, a lot of influences from punk rock and jam music.

Ironically, I don't even really care that much for Sublime, but I used to be a big fan, so I flinch a little when they are pigeonholed as a ska band.
 
#47
MikeGee said:
I love 311!
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haha.. hilarous.

MoonSkaNYC was the **** back in the day.

Just a random, but I used to buy my weed from Roger from Less than Jake. :D

So what is the name of your band Skies "Fanned Fret Afro-American Roots"? :smug: are you secretly Family Man? j/k

Being in a "neo-hippy-jam-band" the nothing shakes the bitches asses like when you drop sleng teng, truth & rights, drop leaf, swing-low, even Badfish (and i hate sublime) in the jamouts.

:hiding:
 
#50
Floridabwoy said:
haha.. hilarous.

MoonSkaNYC was the **** back in the day.

Just a random, but I used to buy my weed from Roger from Less than Jake. :D

So what is the name of your band Skies "Fanned Fret Afro-American Roots"? :smug: are you secretly Family Man? j/k

Being in a "neo-hippy-jam-band" the nothing shakes the bitches asses like when you drop sleng teng, truth & rights, drop leaf, swing-low, even Badfish (and i hate sublime) in the jamouts.

:hiding:
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The band I'm in now is called RiddimWise. We've been pretty low profile, but are getting out and about a lot more these days. Hey, I love the Jam scene...definitely appreciate what we get from that crowd!
 
#52
not_jason said:
Sublime is about as much of a ska band as Blondie was a hip hop band. Okay, perhaps that's an overstatement, but I really wanted to say it anyway. Point is, Sublime dabbled in ska, but I'm not sure they can rightly be called a ska band. They broke into the mainstream right around the same time that ska went mainstream. At the time, most people only had a loose understanding of the term, and a few of Sublime's singles seemed to fit it. The problem is when you listen to the rest of their catalog. Like I said, they certainly drew a lot of inspiration from ska, but they had so many weird stylistic things going on that it's not so simple to just say, "Sublime was a ska band." They seemed to draw a lot more from reggae than they did ska. And of course, a lot of influences from punk rock and jam music.

Ironically, I don't even really care that much for Sublime, but I used to be a big fan, so I flinch a little when they are pigeonholed as a ska band.
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I did say forgive me if im wrong, lol
 
#53
Its sort of come up a few times in this thread...but really the Toasters are owed a great debt of gratitude for what they did for the 3rd wave. Rob turned American Ska from a sub-genre curiosity and nostalgia trip into an active and thriving scene. He owned THE label that got the formative 3rd wave bands in front of people and really did everything he could to make the 3rd wave happen. His band the Toasters did the grind when no one else was doing it yet. Once the ball was rolling he helped his friends...get shows, put out albums and network.

Not only that, I have no hesitation in saying that he had the best band in the scene. Matt Malles was really a crushingly amazing bass player and the rest of his players (horns, drums, sometimes keys) were equally amazing at the time. Rob is a great songwriter, player and frontman and a gentleman who's not too gentlemanly, if you know what I mean.

Anyway, from the 'peak' of the era:

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For those who don't think that ska can groove or has too many notes, you're not really paying attention.

I saw these guys from the early days up through fairly recently, and I can't think of another lineup that could smoke a crowd as hard as this one.
 
#54
I love a good ska band. I think ska is like Rockabilly, if it's not good, it's really not good. But if it's good, it's delicious!

One of the better third wave ska bands emerged from Fresno in the early 90's in the form of Invalid Link Removed. Interesting story. They got to know they guys (and girl) in No Doubt during the early 90's and played many Ska Festivals with them before ND became famous. When Gwen and the gang started to gain notoriety, but before they became mega famous, No Doubt would turn down shows if they couldn't get LGB on the bill. Anyway, I'm good friends with the bari-sax player, and remixed a live album for them a few years ago. Maybe one day they'll decide to release it.
 
#56
Sonicfrog said:
I love a good ska band. I think ska is like Rockabilly, if it's not good, it's really not good. But if it's good, it's delicious!

One of the better third wave ska bands emerged from Fresno in the early 90's in the form of Invalid Link Removed. Interesting story. They got to know they guys (and girl) in No Doubt during the early 90's and played many Ska Festivals with them before ND became famous. When Gwen and the gang started to gain notoriety, but before they became mega famous, No Doubt would turn down shows if they couldn't get LGB on the bill. Anyway, I'm good friends with the bari-sax player, and remixed a live album for them a few years ago. Maybe one day they'll decide to release it.
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Saw them at least once at the Haunt, in Ithaca NY...
 
#57
I am not A Ska Guy...
But I will say this... Yes alot of ska isnt that hot,,,,
But I challenge anyone who doesnt like it..
To listen to OPERATION IVY... The Self titled album..
They were a band out of East Bay in the late 80's
early 90's... Tim from rancid was in it,,, Matt Mcall the Bassplayer
was a shredder.... but so musical..
The basslines are some of the hottest basslines...
If you think all ska is lame...

I challenge you to listen to the entire album...
especially the BASS...
I guarantee... you will have some appreciation...
OPERATION IVY Self titled.... It kicks the hell out of the typical boring
ska lines... and is a true pillar.. when it comes to the style...
This is not your mommy's ska roots band....
This **** kicks ass....

MattyBass
 
#58
MattyBass said:
I am not A Ska Guy...
But I will say this... Yes alot of ska isnt that hot,,,,
But I challenge anyone who doesnt like it..
To listen to OPERATION IVY... The Self titled album..
They were a band out of East Bay in the late 80's
early 90's... Tim from rancid was in it,,, Matt Mcall the Bassplayer
was a shredder.... but so musical..
The basslines are some of the hottest basslines...
If you think all ska is lame...

I challenge you to listen to the entire album...
especially the BASS...
I guarantee... you will have some appreciation...
OPERATION IVY Self titled.... It kicks the hell out of the typical boring
ska lines... and is a true pillar.. when it comes to the style...
This is not your mommy's ska roots band....
This **** kicks ass....

MattyBass
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Op ivy is old news, also his name is matt freeman and he's the bassist for a lil band you may have heard of called Rancid LOL.;)
 
#60
Time Consumer said:
I think everyones already hit the nail on the head with this issue, the oversaturation of horns and cheesiness, less groove than its reggae roots. Its not all bad, forgive me if im wrong but isn't Sublime considered ska? I remember some horns in their stuff, they groove like crazy and are very popular so yeah.
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ok first off Ska was around before reggae, second horns>guitars, third you obviously dont know what ska is
 

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