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Why does everyone hate an Warwick basses.

I totally agree with Warwick's being far too expensive new. But used, they are worth every penny. I got my '95 Warwick Fortress Masterman 5 string in near mint condition with a hard case for $750. I got my '06 Warwick Thumb Dirty Blonde 4 string for $1,200, also with a hard case. I honestly despised the pre-amp in the Dirty Blonde Thumb. The Fortress Masterman was legendary though. I can't wait to find another one since mine was destroyed in a house fire. Used is the only way to go with Warwick. -Luke
 
Musicman20,

The Pro-Series line is made to the same specifications as the German-made basses, and feature the same components, hand-crafted to Warwick standards under the strict quality control of Warwick Germany. I'd highly recommend giving them look. Thanks for your comments! Please let me know if you've got any questions or if I can assist you in any way. Best regards,

Thanks for the input. I think having Warwick on the forums is a good idea for the company.

The only problem is, isn't the Proline series made in Korea? I mean no disrespect to Warwick, and I know that often overseas basses can be very well made, but to me, a Warwick should be a German made instrument. When they were £1400 or so for a 5 string $$ Streamer, made in Germany, it made sense. Buyers know that German made products tend to be rock solid, with high quality control, hence why Warwicks have a good name.

I'd still like to try a German Warwick but the price is too high, as I can get a Sadowsky for the same price, all the way from the USA. As Im from the UK, I would have thought us Brits would have got a better price because of the european market.

Definitely get your IT guys onto a new website...
 
In addition, whilst we all need to protect our environment, and I know Warwick have invested heavily in this, the customer should not be 'stung' with the bill for doing so. I have seen explanations by Warwick stating the increase in prices is also due to the new machinery for environmental protection.

After all, it will be Warwick who reap the benefits, (publicity and possibly awards for their contribution) not the customer.
 
i loved my old thumb. The old wenge necks are verry nice feeling. I kept it as my main axe from 99-this year. I would go back to the new warwicks in a heartbeat! WarwickOfficial, get them to bring back the Fortress body. It was the natural solution to the thumb's dreadful neck dive. I was also not a fan of the MEC stacked J's. MEC should really make a linear humcanceler.

P.S. Thanks for tolerating my guitar player and myself at musicmesse in 2011 being in the vip section. I still have no idea why we were allowed in, but the sekt and jager was awesome!

RedLeg,

Thanks for your comments. The Fortress is currently available in our updated Rockbass line, and also by special order through the Custom Shop! Please let me know if U can assist you in any way. Thanks again!
 
U must have not played a slim wenge neck. Unless its the unfinished portion you don't like

I agree, I don't care for big chunky necks much. The neck on my 96 Fortress is incredible though and if it is as WO stated, the new standard neck is the slim profile, that's a huge plus to me. I love the feel of the Wenge neck on mine. It is the easiest playing neck I have ever put my hands on. Very stable and super fast.
 
and a funny thing happened.. about a year after this post i made a trade for a 04 Corvette Proline.. the neck feels just like a slim Jazz neck..

it took a couple of months to adjust to it.. i developed a case of tendinitis in my fretting arm/hand to the point of great pain and having to stop playing..

the issue was that the first fret was a much farther reach than where the jazz bass had sat on me, causing me to hyperflex my fretting hand..

i had to reconsider my playing technique entirely.. raising the bass up into a higher playing position.. being acutely aware of playing mechanics.. getting used to the narrower string spacing..

all of this took around 10 months, or so..


the result??

i play cleaner, regardless of bass.. my movements have become more economical, which reduces stress and i can play for much longer..

the Proline's tone is nothing short of amazing.. i don't think i've played a neck as fast, sleek feeling and now wildly comfortable as this Proline's neck.. this Warwick is really everything that is good about Warwicks.. although, i would prefer a 3 band preamp in it, instead of the 2 band..

the one real problem with Warwick basses are the output jack.. they get stressed/wear and end up breaking contact..

which brings another issue.. the prices of replacement parts..

$140USD for a dual gang sealed board pot?? $105USD for the brass JANIII?? not to mention the shipping.. the prices are flirting with the delusional..

with that said..

this bass has become my first bass.. i quite enjoy it.. and if i could afford another Warwick, i would now most likely make that purchase i scoffed at in 2009.. but, i think there are just too many good buys on the secondary market to justify a new purchase..

what a change a year makes..

throbgod13,

Thanks for your comments! I'm glad to hear a story like yours...very cool. As far as parts go...the New York Custom Shop can take care of you! If you ever need anything, you can email Dan at [email protected] Feel free to PM or post here, and I would be glad to assist you any way I can. Thanks again!
 
I had a German warwick Tumb BO6. Bought it on impulse. Sold it pretty fast. Could get no Lows out of it. And I play 6 string most of the time and its comfortable for me. But after I played the thumb for a while it reminded me of a big untreated piece of lumber to handle. I may as well well played a 2X6 with strings. I don't mean the size was bad or ergonomics. It was just the feeling I got from the bass
 
Thanks for the input. I think having Warwick on the forums is a good idea for the company.

The only problem is, isn't the Proline series made in Korea? I mean no disrespect to Warwick, and I know that often overseas basses can be very well made, but to me, a Warwick should be a German made instrument. When they were £1400 or so for a 5 string $$ Streamer, made in Germany, it made sense. Buyers know that German made products tend to be rock solid, with high quality control, hence why Warwicks have a good name.

I'd still like to try a German Warwick but the price is too high, as I can get a Sadowsky for the same price, all the way from the USA. As Im from the UK, I would have thought us Brits would have got a better price because of the european market.

Definitely get your IT guys onto a new website...

Thanks for your reply, MusicMan20 - We are about to launch an entirely new website, which will be much easier to navigate! Best regards,
 
I had a German warwick Tumb BO6. Bought it on impulse. Sold it pretty fast. Could get no Lows out of it. And I play 6 string most of the time and its comfortable for me. But after I played the thumb for a while it reminded me of a big untreated piece of lumber to handle. I may as well well played a 2X6 with strings. I don't mean the size was bad or ergonomics. It was just the feeling I got from the bass

Frankly, I don't care for the look of the Thumb, but there are so many that love them. But, hey, that's why they make different models. I am surprised that you couldn't the lows you were looking for out of it. Most threads I have read the guys that have Thumbs swear by them for the sound and playability.
 
Frankly, I don't care for the look of the Thumb, but there are so many that love them. But, hey, that's why they make different models. I am surprised that you couldn't the lows you were looking for out of it. Most threads I have read the guys that have Thumbs swear by them for the sound and playability.

The Thumb bass is unique in every way...which makes it somewhat of a love it or not type of bass. It was designed to be ergonomic and also to have a deep punchy tone. At the end of the day, variety IS the spice of life!
 
Musicman20 said:
Thanks for the input. I think having Warwick on the forums is a good idea for the company.

The only problem is, isn't the Proline series made in Korea? I mean no disrespect to Warwick, and I know that often overseas basses can be very well made, but to me, a Warwick should be a German made instrument. When they were £1400 or so for a 5 string $$ Streamer, made in Germany, it made sense. Buyers know that German made products tend to be rock solid, with high quality control, hence why Warwicks have a good name.

I'd still like to try a German Warwick but the price is too high, as I can get a Sadowsky for the same price, all the way from the USA. As Im from the UK, I would have thought us Brits would have got a better price because of the european market.

Definitely get your IT guys onto a new website...

Pro-series is not the same as proline.
Proline are no longer made.
 
I love Warwick. I have owned a Thumb BO 4 for 8months now. I use it to sub for a fusion band through a GK rig. The lows of this bass is tight, punchy, the highs are glassy and give a superb presence. The neck is thick, feels substantial and organic. I dislike thin necks coated in lacquer/poly ala jazz bass. I find the bass incredibly comfortable to play because the neck pickup is placed the the perfect place to anchor. The brass frets can take a beating from the rotosound strings I use. The EQ is useful and stock electronics are nothing short of amazing. I bought this German made Thumb BO 4 used for $800. This is a hard bass to beat.
 
I don't see him talking smack about Ibanzes. The first bass is usually a price point purchase. I'll bet the paid more for the Warwick.

I have a Warwick and it has an agressive tone that's make's it presence known. But James played a P bass.

There's a set for every backside.


So you ask that question, yet you're talking smack about your PoS pawnshop Ibanez.

By your own reasoning, why do people hate on Ibanezes? Or any other bass for that matter?

I see waaaaaaay less people talked crap about warwicks than I do other brands of bass. Biggest complaint I see about Warwicks is the thick necks... which is a personal preference issue.


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I love the sound and look of the Warwicks... I prefer the older models instead of the newer Vampires or similar, but as everybody says, it's just a personal preference...
Since I had my Elrick singlecut I don't have the need (and money) for another bass, but I'm completely sure that I'll buy a Warwick Streamer Stage or Thumb in the future