Why I lost a bit of respect for Sting (Rick Beato Interview)

[wateroftyne]

Many times. He has recovered his accent now. In spite of many of the comments here, I quite like the guy. He writes incredibly well and plays/sings in his own style. Why does he have to be lovable and McCartney - like?

He certainly has. And he's got a lot of love for the region now. Good lad.

 

[Ekulati]

Also in other Rick Beato videos Rick goes on and on about how Sting uses this mode or that mode and the brilliant music theory employed by Sting, then in the interview with Sting you get the impression from Sting himself he really wrote the music more intuitively and the songs were not derived from an extensive contemplation of music theory.

True but this always happens. Theory/analysis always comes AFTER the fact, after the creation. This is why, IMHO, music composed intentionally from a THEORY approach is usually crap. We see it here with threads by newbies all obsessed over what modes they MUST learn or what they should play over some wild extended chord. Too much internet "learning" and not enough integrating musical ideas into the ear. This from one who taught theory at the university level...

 

[TrevorG]

Ha! Years ago I did a gig at the Albert Hall, London. It was a big charity gig and stacked with stars. During the rehearsal I spotted Sting with Elton John, Ian McKellan, Alf and a few other gods. I thought they were deep in conversation and wouldn't notice me take a picture from a fair distance away. I set up and, just as I was about to take the picture, Sting repositioned himself and stared straight into my lens. I took the shot but was so surprised that the shot was out of focus(gutted)!
Love him or hate him, he's more than a Rock Star, he's a one man media machine standing well over six feet with shock blond hair and seriously buff body... then he starts singing!! His performance was the highlight of the evening. We all noticed that he(and Elton) was the only one that didn't have problems with the PA system(many thought that wasn't an accident). The audience were like putty in his hands because part of his genius is optimising every situation to his advantage. Can't be easy being totally grounded when everybody in your bubble worships you. I've seen lesser people behave much worse.

 

[baileyboy]

I remember when my mother stopped listening to Glen Campbell after he was accused of domestic abuse by Tanya Tucker. I didn't get it then, but I do now. Hard for me to watch a DeNiro or Streep movie these days without getting sick to my stomach.

 

[Tom Bomb]

Look at all of the great musicians. How many can be said to be truly humble?

Me. me. me. me. me. meme. ME !

Count me as one — totally immune to the beastly Sting of the humble nature, me
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[Peter_Drake]

Ha! Years ago I did a gig at the Albert Hall, London. It was a big charity gig and stacked with stars. During the rehearsal I spotted Sting with Elton John, Ian McKellan, Alf and a few other gods. I thought they were deep in conversation and wouldn't notice me take a picture from a fair distance away. I set up and, just as I was about to take the picture, Sting repositioned himself and stared straight into my lens. I took the shot but was so surprised that the shot was out of focus(gutted)!
Love him or hate him, he's more than a Rock Star, he's a one man media machine standing well over six feet with shock blond hair and seriously buff body... then he starts singing!! His performance was the highlight of the evening. We all noticed that he(and Elton) was the only one that didn't have problems with the PA system(many thought that wasn't an accident). The audience were like putty in his hands because part of his genius is optimising every situation to his advantage. Can't be easy being totally grounded when everybody in your bubble worships you. I've seen lesser people behave much worse.

Mind, I saw him play in California when he was touring the Dream of the Blue Turtles. You will remember a certain Branford Marsalis on saxophone. Sting was the second coolest man on stage that night. Second by a long, long way.
Peter Drake teacher Hexham

 

[Peter_Drake]

Ha! Years ago I did a gig at the Albert Hall, London. It was a big charity gig and stacked with stars. During the rehearsal I spotted Sting with Elton John, Ian McKellan, Alf and a few other gods. I thought they were deep in conversation and wouldn't notice me take a picture from a fair distance away. I set up and, just as I was about to take the picture, Sting repositioned himself and stared straight into my lens. I took the shot but was so surprised that the shot was out of focus(gutted)!
Love him or hate him, he's more than a Rock Star, he's a one man media machine standing well over six feet with shock blond hair and seriously buff body... then he starts singing!! His performance was the highlight of the evening. We all noticed that he(and Elton) was the only one that didn't have problems with the PA system(many thought that wasn't an accident). The audience were like putty in his hands because part of his genius is optimising every situation to his advantage. Can't be easy being totally grounded when everybody in your bubble worships you. I've seen lesser people behave much worse.

Fair point. He has had a lifetime of uncritical adoration. You would need to be super human not to be influenced by that

 

[Peter_Drake]

True but this always happens. Theory/analysis always comes AFTER the fact, after the creation. This is why, IMHO, music composed intentionally from a THEORY approach is usually crap. We see it here with threads by newbies all obsessed over what modes they MUST learn or what they should play over some wild extended chord. Too much internet "learning" and not enough integrating musical ideas into the ear. This from one who taught theory at the university level...

Excellent comment. It is interesting to read analyses of McCartney's music in that way. He used a load of fancy techniques without ever knowing he was doing it. Incredible

 

[Peter_Drake]

He certainly has. And he's got a lot of love for the region now. Good lad.

Once a Geordie, always a Geordie. He has given a LOT of money to local causes too

 

[TreySonagras]

Miles Davis hated Sting. That's good enough for me.

 

[Peter_Drake]

Miles Davis hated Sting. That's good enough for me.

Is that a fact? Didn't know that

 

[-Asdfgh-]

Ha! Years ago I did a gig at the Albert Hall, London. It was a big charity gig and stacked with stars. During the rehearsal I spotted Sting with Elton John, Ian McKellan, Alf and a few other gods. I thought they were deep in conversation and wouldn't notice me take a picture from a fair distance away. I set up and, just as I was about to take the picture, Sting repositioned himself and stared straight into my lens. I took the shot but was so surprised that the shot was out of focus(gutted)!
Love him or hate him, he's more than a Rock Star, he's a one man media machine standing well over six feet with shock blond hair and seriously buff body... then he starts singing!! His performance was the highlight of the evening. We all noticed that he(and Elton) was the only one that didn't have problems with the PA system(many thought that wasn't an accident). The audience were like putty in his hands because part of his genius is optimising every situation to his advantage. Can't be easy being totally grounded when everybody in your bubble worships you. I've seen lesser people behave much worse.

I would hope that no one deliberately screwed up the PA for other acts. Any sound engineer doing that should be lightly beaten with a flip-flop. One time I saw REM (there have been more than one) the sound for the support bands was better, very slightly, than for REM!

 

[TreySonagras]

Is that a fact? Didn't know that
Peter Drake teacher Queen Elizabeth High School Hexham

In Miles' autobiography he talked about Sting "stealing" Darryl Jones from his band.

 

[TrevorG]

Mind, I saw him play in California when he was touring the Dream of the Blue Turtles. You will remember a certain Branford Marsalis on saxophone. Sting was the second coolest man on stage that night. Second by a long, long way.

I'm a big Brandford fan and not surprised to hear this. I suspect Sting thought the same.

 

[Peter_Drake]

I worship at the Temple of King Branford...

 

[Peter_Drake]

In Miles' autobiography he talked about Sting "stealing" Darryl Jones from his band.

Is that so? I must read that. Miles is another great with an attitude problem

 

[MynameisMe]

Sting's best work was on the movie Dune! Sarc..................

 

[BigJohnAZ]

He did not choose his own nickname. Bono A.K.A. Paul Hewson named his friend Dave Evans "The Edge". He said it was because "Dave was so skinny that he vanished whenever he turned sideways". Paul Hewson was named "Bono Vox" by his friend Gavin Friday (real name). Hewson/Bono didn't like it at first, but says that it grew on him.

Thanks, I didn't know that.

 

[Berger912]

I guarantee you that most of your favorite musicians would not be a great hang. I think Sting is ridiculously talented. I've been tasked with singing amd playing some Police songs at the se time. I cam tell you he's no ordinary musician.

The fact that he's not warm and fuzzy doesn't change that at all. Most of the greats aren't.

I have met Michael Manring a few times and i dobt there is a more talent bassist around. he is the kindest most humble musician. not all great are douches

 

[Bonafide]

Miles Davis hated Sting. That's good enough for me.

Really? Good enough for you? I hope you are joking. (no flame, genuine question) We all have the faculty of independent thinking and forming an opinion. Do you really trust Miles Davis view of the world enough to accept his beliefs and opinions, sight unseen? Its a bit hard to believe that between two random strangers you don't know, one of them can influence your opinion of the other. With zero context.

Is that a fact? Didn't know that

It isn't true in the least. Sting was huge (fanboy level) Miles Davis fan and Miles had respect for him. Miles focused his object of pain on Sting when Darryl Jones left his band to join Sting. He was emotionally upset, very challenged that a young musician like Darryl would leave him to crossover and play 'not jazz'. It was very hard for Darryl also. But Darryl auditioned on his own steam and knew it was the right opportunity for his career. It was an unexpected breakup for Miles, and Sting was the 'affair' so to speak. It could have been anybody and the initial animosity would have been felt. It had nothing to do with music or personality. Certainly not hate.

 

[RichardW]

Miles Davis hated Sting. That's good enough for me.

Miles was no picnic in the ego or humility department, either.