Why is Pink Floyd more popular and appealing than Rush?

[bobba66]

"On our ship the Rusty-Naughty, we fly around and then we potty......

 

[58kites]

Better to compare Rush with another huge metal band.

I believe they have said their influences are prog rock and rock, not metal. Yes, being the biggest..... ELP, Jethro Tull, Led Zeppelin.

 

[HaphAsSard]

I believe they have said their influences are prog rock and rock, not metal.

The same can be said for most "metal" bands that started in the earliest Seventies: beside listening to one another, their influences were mostly in rock of the previous decade, and unsurprisingly so. By the way, as a genre descriptor, "heavy metal" was practically a synonym of "hard rock" back then.
The above being said, I say compare away: it's no sacrilege in either direction. Zeppelin or Yes, Pavlov's Dog or Budgie, it's all good. Worst that can happen is you'll find more differences than similarities.

 

[Averagebear6]

Well, their record label *is* called Anthem. And I don't know about specifically referencing Rand, but her so-called 'objectivist' philosophy runs through the lyrics of all their best work from their 'golden age' of the 70s and 80s.

I'm no fan of Rand, and I have repeatedly listened to their albums and it does not appeared to have negatively influenced me. But I certainly do not care for their naked man pentagram.

 

[Averagebear6]

Pink Floyds concepts and melodies are simply way stronger...less busy and just darn more interesting. Even Gilmore is a way more satisfying more melodic player than Liefeson...Not sure why the comparison has been made really....
Better to compare Rush with another huge metal band.

Bro! Rush is not metal. Differing opinions are great as God did not create us to be puppets! Reading the posts many say Floyd puts them to sleep. Who cares, enjoy both! Or not...

 

[Buffalo Man]

No offense, but Syd songs are typical 60's fodder. Not too different from how the Moody Blues and tons of others sounded, but with a bizarre twist. Grateful for Syd because that was the situation that led Waters to become the phenomenal writer he became. Meddle and Dark Side are very interesting, and Wish You Were Here to The Final Cut are incredible.

 

[58kites]

The same can be said for most "metal" bands that started in the earliest Seventies: beside listening to one another, their influences were mostly in rock of the previous decade, and unsurprisingly so. By the way, as a genre descriptor, "heavy metal" was practically a synonym of "hard rock" back then.
The above being said, I say compare away: it's no sacrilege in either direction. Zeppelin or Yes, Pavlov's Dog or Budgie, it's all good. Worst that can happen is you'll find more differences than similarities.

All true....but Rush is not metal.
Their song structure is not very metal, their sound is not very metal, they sound like very busy hard rock.
To me, I hear progressive rock structured music that still always sounds like a three piece hard rock band.

 

[WG Plum]

Interesting side effect of this thread - I'm listening to Pink Floyd. I also went back and listened to a little Rush. I definitely prefer PF at the moment, though I'm sure I'll eventually get in a Rush mood for whatever reason. That article/interview on Rush from the Guardian posted earlier was eye-opening.

 

[HaphAsSard]

All true....but Rush is not metal.
Their song structure is not very metal, their sound is not very metal, they sound like very busy hard rock.
To me, I hear progressive rock structured music that still always sounds like a three piece hard rock band.

Agreed. They only are "metal" in the sense that the early Rolling Stones are "R'n'B": it's an historical usage of the word (they were called that by the press), not tantamount to saying they played the same music as Bruno Mars. Rush shares little stylistic elements with, say, Judas Priest or Saxon, let alone all that came later.

 

[MikePlaysBass]

The first time I heard Dark Side I was working late at the office and the local rock station would play long cuts. I listened thru a one-inch speaker in a small desk radio. It was Ok but I would never have purchased a copy. Fast forward a few years when I had purchased a very nice music system complete with nice headphones. Play DSOTM one night with headphones. Played it again. Took off the headphones, cranked it up, and played it again. The stereo mix did it for me. Bass - highs - mids - suround sound. I had it all cranked by the third play. Lucky I had my own home and no near neighbors because, man, I had the bass shaking the house.
I never had that kind of experience with Rush.

That’s a great observation. The production quality of the later Pink Floyd recordings is nothing short of amazing. The pixie dust or whatever they sprinkle over the final mix and mastering makes a huge difference.
I’ve listened to music I didn’t like all that much, but if it’s a great recording with the right amount and not too over the top production, it’s still a pleasurable experience. At the same time I have some old LPs from artists I really love, but the pressings I have don’t sound anywhere as good as the digital remastered versions I can stream online. That does make a big difference and the average person also picks up on that even though they may not even realize it.

 

[EarlTroutman]

There was a comment earlier that PF puts some people to sleep. In an even earlier post I talked about how the PF audience in live shows got 'better' when they woke up. I hope most understood that the music plus one or two funny cigs were the culpret - not boredom. At the Nashville PF concert there was an endless supply being passed around during the DSOTM segment.

 

[Averagebear6]

That’s a great observation. The production quality of the later Pink Floyd recordings is nothing short of amazing. The pixie dust or whatever they sprinkle over the final mix and mastering makes a huge difference.
I’ve listened to music I didn’t like all that much, but if it’s a great recording with the right amount and not too over the top production, it’s still a pleasurable experience. At the same time I have some old LPs from artists I really love, but the pressings I have don’t sound anywhere as good as the digital remastered versions I can stream online. That does make a big difference and the average person also picks up on that even though they may not even realize it.

imo The Wall is one of the best produced albums ever. Bob Ezrin and his team did amazing work. Kiss Destroyer is another amazing production by Ezrin. If only he'd produce my stuff. Ironic to this thread, it is hugely influenced by Floyd and Rush.

 

[Alkali Ike]

Rush plays too many notes.

 

[Bass V]

Budgie

this thread can now be closed.

 

[58kites]

imo The Wall is one of the best produced albums ever. Bob Ezrin and his team did amazing work. Kiss Destroyer is another amazing production by Ezrin. If only he'd produce my stuff. Ironic to this thread, it is hugely influenced by Floyd and Rush.

Bob Ezrin turned the Alice Cooper Band into a Gold and Platinum selling band, prior to him getting involved they were just a band that had great potential.
His first production work was with Alice Cooper Band for their Love It to Death album in 1971 which broke the Alice Cooper Band and made Bob Ezrin a big deal.
Other bands he helped be great are: Lou Reed, Aerosmith, Deep Purple, Peter Gabriel, Hanoi Rocks, Taylor Swift, Phish, Dr. John, Nils Lofgren, Jane's Addiction, Kansas, Berlin, the Jayhawks, Nine Inch Nails, Joe Bonamassa, Deftones, Kiss, Pink Floyd, Rod Stewart and a few others.

 

[MidnightRunner]

The worst part about Rush, of course, are their fans. And that's not the band's fault. But their fans are insufferable.

Why? Because they are rabid?

 

[MidnightRunner]

I agree. Pink Floyd up to The Wall and Rush up to Hold Your Fire for me. The albums after Hold Your Fire have a few nice cuts on each of them but never reached the heights of the albums before it. They started to repeat themselves after that. Up to Hold Your Fire every album was different and original but somehow they lost that aspect after that, that’s why I lost interest in Rush. Still love the old albums though.

Aren't you a fan of Clockwork Angels? I think that album is definitely above average.

 

[Les Fret]

Aren't you a fan of Clockwork Angels? I think that album is definitely above average.

Not really. It's not bad and it has a few nice cuts but it can't compete with the classic Rush albums. I feel the same for every Rush album after Hold Your Fire.

 

[Polkatronixx]

Why? Because they are rabid?

They smell bad. Probably do have rabies, now that you mention it.

 

[5StringBlues]

Because they have to wonder why people like other bands better than rush. Also because they have a annoying habit of trying to give you the reasons why Russia is the greatest band, and tell you that you just don't understand even though you understand clearly and just don't like the music.

Why? Because they are rabid?