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Why not American Standard single coil Precisions?

#43
Gries Amps said:
How does the tone of a single coil P bass compare to the neck pickup of a Jazz bass?
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The scpb coil shape is extremely close to that of a Strat; and many Strat pickups sound real good in a basses, surprisingly well balanced in spite of the magnet arrangement. It's sort of like the E and G get single magnets like on a scpb, and the A and D are more like a Jazz Bass.
 
#44
Mastermold said:
This is OT (but since it's my thread I'll ask anyway!) but have any of you tried the Jay Turser single coil P-basses? And if so, how do they stack up to the Fender CIJ 51?
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IMO Jay Tursers are among the most underrated values out there. I had one of the scpb's; nice neck and I thought the pickup sounded better than the stock Fender RI single coil.
 
#45
GlennW said:
The scpb coil shape is extremely close to that of a Strat; and many Strat pickups sound real good in a basses, surprisingly well balanced in spite of the magnet arrangement.
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I agree. Believe it or not, the tone of the OEM pickup on my little Squier Bronco (6 pole, ceramic magnets, Strat shape) is one of the best I've ever heard and extremely even sounding, but unfortunately, it's also noisy. I replaced it with a EMG SA Strat pickup and that took care of the noise. I've also used an EMG SA pickup in SCPBs with good results regarding noise reduction.
 
#46
Pickups are starting to come along Positively. Good comments regarding Strat pickups. How about Dual Rail models? I have yet to hear what I think is good in a Bronco Bass, but that doesn't mean that it can't. I played an amazing Traveler bass recently. Price, $149., and I could care less what the pickup was. Couldnt see it actually being a transducer preamp model. Pickups are the thing though...as I wonder how that bass would have sounded with a decent passive Beef supply.
 
#47
Jared92 said:
When you are ready to sell. I will be there waiting.
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Chef said:
shoot, I told him that years ago;)
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Boys, Boys, don't get so excited right away. However, I just found out
that my retirement is actually going to pay me more than my working
life did, so I am shopping for a '68 Tele soon! If I find the right one
that makes me feel OK "when I get serious," then I might, MIGHT sell
this little lovely thing. Yet, I still sense a Fender Tele Bass RI is coming.

BTW, my students get to play her all the time. They are not so
impressed, because it hides nothing. Honestly, playing any fender
single coil P-bass/Tele is a major schooling in how to be clean, even,
and clear.

I love these simple mean old darlings! :hyper:
 
#49
Spedracer said:
Ive never had the chance to play a single
coil p bass. BUT, wouldn't it sound sorta similar to a jazz with the neck
pickup solo'd?
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No. As noted above, one magnet pole per string. Observe above.

Spedracer said:
On a side note. I'm finding this tone very
similar to a split P sound. And it baffles me how soloing the neck
pickup doesn't sound like mud.
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This tone??? Which tone? A solo'd Jazz Neck Pup? I disagree, but hey,
that is fine. If you like it and can use it musically, that is what matters,
IMHO.

I find the single coil P much more dynamically sensitive than the Jazz--
perhaps to a fault, and the standard modern split-coil is to me a whole
'nother low-mid punch country. :eyebrow:
 
#51
I flew over your place at 35K this afternoon and got to wondering where you were with selling your '51P5er Chef ... and now I know

I'll also confirm that a SCPB pickup is NOT a twin sister to playing a J neck pickup solo'd - it's all in the pole pieces and windings ;)

all the best,

R
 
#53
Jim Carr said:
I find the single coil P much more dynamically sensitive than the Jazz--
perhaps to a fault, and the standard modern split-coil is to me a whole 'nother low-mid punch country. :eyebrow:
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Please excuse my previous post as i skipped over the 2nd page and therefore didn't see the discussion about a solo'd jazz pickup. But, what you say makes sense.

Also, i do find that the solo'd neck pickup of my jazz does have a usable tone. Of course it doesn't have the same jazz sound solo'd. But it doesn't get as muddy as i would expect it would. Very usable from my experience.
 
#54
If you'd like to hear the difference between a SCPB and an almost solo'd Jazz neck pickup (there is a little bit of of the bridge pickup dialed in) Both are strung with D'Addario rounds (heavy gauge) although the ones on the P-bass are slightly older.

myspace.com/andrewricemusic

The jazz bass track is Funky Cuntry, and the 51RI track is called VH1 Short.
 
#55
Jim Carr said:
It hides nothing.
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In reference to WWI fighter planes, a writer I admire noted that "they wore their technology on the outside." The same is true of the '51 P: it serves as a window into Leo's mind at the time he was developing it, both in terms of its inspired solutions (OK, it's a given that NOBODY KNOWS why he selected the 34" scale, other than the usual assurances that he felt that it was the best compromise between tone and playability) and less-successful features like the "amoeba" pickguard.

Hey, it is what it is: if he wanted it to be pretty, he would have hired Freddie Tavares (oh, right: that's what he did).
 
#56
Spedracer said:
Please excuse my previous post as i skipped over the 2nd page and therefore didn't see the discussion about a solo'd jazz pickup. But, what you say makes sense.

Also, i do find that the solo'd neck pickup of my jazz does have a usable tone. Of course it doesn't have the same jazz sound solo'd. But it doesn't get as muddy as i would expect it would. Very usable from my experience.
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I use a Jazz with the neck pup soloed when I want to sound like Tommy Shannon. :bassist:
 
#57
I love the single-coils, I have a split-coil P bass myself. I know they sell the Sting bass, which is a single-coil, and is a very nice choice in my opinion. I think Squire is also selling a single-coil, but they aren't that great compared to Sting's bass.
 
#58
Would somebody post that "Ruby" thang with Kenny Rogers on an SC?
duh---oh, OK I will. The SC P-bass lives on Youtube. We so hated this when it came out, though
I have covered it any number of times...ah life!



Kids, keep in mind this was retro even back then, and not in a good way!
 

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