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Why Why Why (J-bass question)

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by eboe, Mar 4, 2008.


  1. eboe

    eboe

    Jul 14, 2005
    Columbus, OH
    Why does it seem like the Fender Jazz bass and it's myriad boutique versions around here are considered to be the cream of the crop, the best of the best, the One Bass to lust after. It's always Jazz basses this or that, or if it's not the Jazz that is considered the holy grail, it's a MM. I know we all have to have different tastes, but so many people have some sort of J bass it's not even funny. I've played them, and don't find them versatile for the way I play at all. I find them thin. Maybe I'm just a P man at heart, I don't know. But I'm just curious as to why so much Jazz Bass love. Does anyone else here feel like I do? If so, speak up. Maybe I will make a "Never will own a Jazz Bass" club. that said, it's time to :bag:
     
  2. Mark Wilson

    Mark Wilson Supporting Member

    Jan 12, 2005
    Toronto, Ontario
    Endorsing Artist: Elixir® Strings
    Why so much Jazz Bass love?
    Simple.

    Jaco happened.
     
  3. palm grease

    palm grease

    Dec 10, 2007
    NYC
    nope...it's just you.

    diff strokes for many diff folks man.


    i hate Buicks! why do people drive em? i dunno.... but they do! same with Benzs, always at the bottom of the CR list... but yet they are every 3rd car on Long Island...why's that? i dunno!

    i guess we should all just agree to disagree.... but wheres the fun in that? i dunno?
     
  4. I don't think the original assertion is correct.

    Granted, lots of people like the Fender jazz line, and just about every independent maker has copied it at one time or another, but it's not the be-all and end-all, and i don't see it discussed as such.

    They're nice basses, many people like them. Move on - nothing more to see.
     
  5. eboe

    eboe

    Jul 14, 2005
    Columbus, OH
    I guess I have seen more virtual orgasms over Jazz basses on here than anything else. That might have something to do with my opinion.
     
  6. palm grease

    palm grease

    Dec 10, 2007
    NYC
    have you tried playing with your fingers?




    no no no i kiiiid i kiiid!
     
  7. Life has taught me that if something is popular, it is for a reason. Jazz basses and their repective copies are highly regarded for their flexability and playability. That doesn't mean they are the best design, just that they are capable of performing lots of jobs and thus appeal to a lot of people. Personally I don't understand the Alleva-Coppolo hype on TB. There will never be an uglier headstock in the history of mankind.
     
  8. fenderhutz

    fenderhutz Supporting Member

    Jan 28, 2007
    Harpers Ferry WV
    Jazz basses are versatile, easy to upgrade/downgrade/hack/modify and most recording engineers ask for the sound a jazz or P-bass produce.

    They are easy to play with it's thinner neck.

    Is it not "metal" enough?
     
  9. Darkstrike

    Darkstrike Return Of The King!

    Sep 14, 2007
    Doubtful, Jazzes are plenty metal!
     
  10. Hey I drive both and play a jazz bass (well, a sadowsky version) Why?

    They're reliable and get the job done!
     
  11. coreyfyfe

    coreyfyfe Supporting Member

    Nov 19, 2007
    boston, ma
     
  12. eboe

    Maybe you just have not played the right Jazz bass OR MM.

    I have one of each and both get can sound FAT and meaty as well as tight and narrow.

    On my Jazz (granted, it's a Jazz V - but I am not talking about the B string) - if I dial the neck pickup up all the way and dial the bridge down - anything less that half - my jazz sounds like a giant! Big, round, gritty, fat - if I use a pick, it'll eat your face off!

    My the Stingray (again, a 5'er) toggle position 3, Bass boosted just a touch, everything else flat - big - fat - giant...

    I am guessing you may have an exaggerated concept of versatile, but both my basses can provide me a full spectrum of tone. From Jaco-esque burpy, to Phil Lesh phat (OK, I used the PH version to be hip - did it work?).

    What is it you are trying to achieve, tone-wise?
     
  13. silky smoove

    silky smoove

    May 19, 2004
    Seattle, WA
    I love how there's still a misconception that all jazz basses sound alike. My jazz bass (Warmoth/Status build) sounds absolutely nothing like a Fender Jazz Bass, which sounds nothing like a modern Sadowsky, which sounds nothing like a Lakland JO... do you see where I'm going with this?

    Its tantamount to saying that all cabs with 10" speakers sounds like ________ as compared to all cabs with 15" speakers which sound like _________.
     
  14. palm grease

    palm grease

    Dec 10, 2007
    NYC
    thats exactly my point good sir!

    but i dont get your benz prefrence.... not to digress, but pm me and i'll complain all day about what a crock MBenz is!
     
  15. The P can be enjoyed if you like the fullness of its sound, but the jazz bass can do thing they P could never accomplish.

    I LOVE the way the jazz bass sounds...

    P's are good too tho
     
  16. rad87gn

    rad87gn

    Sep 17, 2007
    rad87gn
    I've got a '86 Buick T-Type WH1 3.8 Turbo. 600+ RWHP on stock motor. Why? Cause it runs 10's in the quarter on pump gas & alcohol injection, gets 30 mpg, tops out 170mph, has some luxury/class, and looks like a grocery getter. :)

    I like Fender Jazz too.
     
  17. I have a couple of guitar buds, one higly skilled, the other plays at an acceptable level. Both love Jazz basses, simply love them.
    One because he believes that only Jazz's have note distinction as compared to a P (remember only two types of basses exist). I wonder if P players may have pushed the thump and deep sound too much and 'forced' some to think along similar lines.
    The other ia a J bass addict because he thinks Fender is the only real bass company and needs two PUPs and more knobs than a P offers. I think it is some form of security issue.
    If I were to build a bass it would be a P body, J neck and a J PUP assembly, one vol., one tone and maybe a Push Pull pot to switch between series and parallel and a more full pick up guard , no metal plate.

    I loved my 72 fretless P and my 70 P, and liked my MIM J.
     
  18. Well they were real ones from late 70s and the mid eighties. Tanks! The newest one,early 90s, a diesel didn't like the Canadian weather much. Things broke pretty easily as well.
     
  19. RBrownBass

    RBrownBass Supporting Member

    Aug 22, 2004
    I asked this question a couple of years ago on another site, and most of the responses dealt with the way music has changed since the invention of the Jazz.

    You also have to figure in the number of "super Jazz" basses (the boutique ones) out there. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that with a P-bass, what you see is the sound you want when you're playing a P. Nothing has happened musically that would cause a lot of players to want flawless, extremely low action, active eq or a high-mass bridge on a Precision, at least not in the same numbers that might want the same on a Jazz. That thump, well as it works on a lot of tunes, is not a very complex tone to imitate. So not as many boutique P models appear, limiting the number of "virtual orgasms" (your term for boutique J appreciation) for a boutique P to a total far below those a boutique J.

    I also think you're just a P man at heart. No one else would think to even word your first two posts here the way you've done.
     
  20. lefty007

    lefty007

    Jan 19, 2004
    Miami, FL
    Hmmm. . . Jaco is only a fraction of the influence. Marcus happened, Larry Graham happened, Geddy Lee, JPJ, Joe Osborne (I credit him in part for making Fender oh-so-famous in the studio scene).

    I don't model myself after any of these player, but I have tried over 60 different basses, and I always conclude that the Jazz design (dual single coil pickups) sounds the best. Ergonomically, I also find the Jazz body design the most comfortably; smae with the neck dimensions.

    But, hey, like it's said countless times in this forum: to each its own. Play whatever floats you boat.


    My short answer to the original poster: because it sounds, feels, and looks better than any other bass design.
     

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