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Do I sense that the Doc is GASing hard?After a few threads wondering if the prices of given basses are justified, I have come to the conclusion that it just isn’t worth worrying about. If you cannot afford a bass or don’t think it worth the price, buy one that fits your budget and call it a day. We are fortunate to be consumers at a time when quality instruments are available at many price points. I say spend your time getting better instead of getting caught up in instrument prices.![]()
Do I sense that the Doc is GASing hard?![]()
We all know that when all of that was done a 62 P-bass was not worth what it is now. I can forgive folks for not being able to predict the future, especially if they are young.
I've never dwelled on what I can't afford. Just because I can drop 10k on a bass doesn't mean I would, but I'm happy for the people who buy those basses and enjoy them. The only reason I'll ever mention price is that I think used gear prices today are crazy. I'm not going to pay 80% of new for something used, and it baffles me why people do that and then brag about the "deals" they got.I did not say don’t buy gear, I said don’t dwell on gear you can’t afford. If you can’t afford a boutique Jazz, get a Sire, get an MIM Fender, get a RSD. Marcus Miller and Jeff Berlin are two of the best in the world and they never depended on expensive gear. Just do it!
re: "i could care less"
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Bingo. Getting better requires practice time and development of one's technique, not money spent on a different bass. A mistaken idea I think most of us fall victim to at least once until experience teaches better, self included...... I say spend your time getting better instead of getting caught up in instrument prices.
Why worry about price? VALUE.
Many basses are way too high priced, even in a time of high inflation.
TB does it’s part, perhaps as a by product of the community it’s built, to support those prices.
Not every precision bass sounds the same..Isn't that point of this thread - the price? If people stopped looking at a bass as an accessory, but their tool, having a collection would not be important. I see lots of threads here where bassists have a collection of (for example) precision basses - the primary difference being color and other cosmetic options. When is the last time you saw a carpenter with a collection of different colored claw hammers?
Not every precision bass sounds the same..
But unless they have pickups at the extreme end of the sonic spectrum, eg very overwound, they sound enough alike, I'd put money on most people not being able to pick one from t'other in a mix, blind.Not every precision bass sounds the same..
Bingo. Getting better requires practice time and development of one's technique, not money spent on a different bass. A mistaken idea I think most of us fall victim to at least once until experience teaches better, self included.
Very true, Doc. And yet, I still crave a Rob Allen bass that I will never be able to justify because of the cost.![]()
I often reference Marcus Miller because in conversations like this because he reached GOAT status playing a bass that I think his Mom bought for $275. I remember him doing the tour with Victor Wooten and Stanley Clarke, I think Marcus’ Fender sounded pretty good compared to Wooten’s Fodera and Clarke’s Alembic.
These days, Marcus Miller uses a Sire five for his fretless segment. If the GOAT uses modest basses, I can be happy with them too.
Hmmmmm .... the tool needs to be adequate to the job, true, but I've learned to do a lot with modest tools. Practicing requires discipline more than it requires inspiration. And discpline is not dependent on the tool; it's dependent upon the will. So, sorry, slight disagreement on cause and effect, but like you said: different strokes. I've got a couple really beautiful basses that rarely get played. It's the cheap(er) basses that get used most for practice.Practicing requires inspiration. For many, a super high quality instrument can provide that inspiration. Different strokes for different folks.
Hmmmmm .... the tool needs to be adequate to the job, true, but I've learned to do a lot with modest tools. Practicing requires discipline more than it requires inspiration. And discpline is not dependent on the tool; it's dependent upon the will. So, sorry, slight disagreement on cause and effect, but like you said: different strokes. I've got a couple really beautiful basses that rarely get played. It's the cheap(er) basses that get used most for practice.