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Why you prefer a wide neck?

I can palm a full sized basketball. A P shaped neck fits right up in there. I like my J and some others but my comfort zone is P style necks. My Ray and Sabre necks are really close to the Ps I own. I have an old Kramer that I can't give away because of sentimental baggage. It's super thin and I really don't like that feel. But there's no right or wrong, totally subjective. Like grape or strawberry jelly with your PB&J.
 
I love reading all the finger analogies haha. To clarify, I bought the mustang short scale thinking it would be a short cut to learn some of the more challenging tunes. Turns out I just needed to practice. I think I can relate to the extra space of a wide neck feeling good as well, room to breathe so to speak. I too have large bear paws.
 
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A lot of taper on the neck annoys me. I can easily feel the drastic inconsistency in string spacing when moving around the neck on a J. A P neck has taper too, but it's not obvious when playing.

With a short scale, the nut spacing is often narrow as well, but so is the neck heel, usually. So I usually feel fine on short scales. It's not so much about the nut width as it is the amount of taper along the neck.

That said, I played upright for years, and the extreme taper of those fretboards never bothered me. Go figure.
 
Some background to my question. I have a jazz, a P, and a JMJ Mustang. I had been favoring the jazz and mustang lately as I’m trying to learn some busy songs that involve some stretching and lots of fast string skipping. But I dusted off the P last week and I have to admit it’s comfort in weight, non offset body, simple controls and that tone! The neck isn’t as fast but it’s comfortable in a different kinda way.
Let’s hear your reasons why you prefer a wider neck?
I like a decent sized neck. I actually prefer to play 5 strings because of the size of the necks. Broke the metacarpal going to my pinky finger when I was younger. Didn’t realize it until I broke my arm weeks later. The bone in my hand showed up in the arm x Ray. It healed a little funky so I have a knot there. Playing really small necks like a 4 string jazz neck causes issues for me. Not a problem playing a few songs with but i don’t like playing them for long rehearsals or long gigs. I guess it’s similar to folks with shoulder injuries or wrist injuries preferring short scale basses because it’s a little comfortable for them.
 
Some background to my question. I had been favoring the jazz and mustang lately as I’m trying to learn some busy songs that involve some stretching and lots of fast string skipping. But I dusted off the P last week...

The neck isn’t as fast but it’s comfortable in a different kinda way.
Let’s hear your reasons why you prefer a wider neck?
As a heavyset six-footer, hand size and reach definitely dictate what feels good to me.

That aside, my preferences have changed over time.

As a beginner, I struggled to keep up. Skinny necks helped. I even shaved a couple of necks in an effort to get the speed I was after. By the time I was woodshedding heavily in college, that wasn’t an issue anymore. I could play any phrase I heard in my head, and double guitar and horn solos at tempo.

I didn’t need a pencil-neck any more, but now I had new problems to overcome.

One was overplaying. I lost a few gigs by focusing more on how many notes I could fit in the bar, than on listening to my bandmates. I also started to notice how mechanical my playing had become.

That was when I realized that narrow string spacing at the nut tended to choke off my vibrato, and make other techniques harder to pull off. It also increased hand fatigue on longer gigs.

Switching to a wider neck helped me to develop a rounder sound, and become more expressive. It also helped me to slow down and return to simpler lines- less Jeff Berlin, and more Jamerson.

During that phase, I also bumped into my limits at the other end of the spectrum. 5-string and 6-string basses with 2” finger boards can sound great, but they‘re a chore to play.

By the time I was in my late 30’s, I had pretty much found my sound. By then I was less concerned about tone production, and more about comfort. I had also accumulated enough experience on bass and other stringed instruments to realize that depending on string count and gauges, my ergonomic sweet spot covers a pretty narrow range around 1 11/16” to 1 7/8”.

This has led to my current preferences. I like Jazz basses better with 50’s P-bass necks on them, and I like guitar necks that resemble the PRS wide/fat neck carve.

If I had smaller hands, I’m sure my preferences would be different.
 
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I have a Jazz (1.5" but) and a P (1.625" nut). The P neck feels slightly meatier all the way up the fretboard.

I can play both just fine, but for extended periods of playing, I'm much happier with the P. I've got big hands, and I suspect that plays a part. I'm beginning to suspect that, for me, the ideal nut width is somewhere between the two. Played a Yamaha BB434 somewhat recently, and it felt really good. I think it's closer to 1.6" than 1.5".
 
Some background to my question. I have a jazz, a P, and a JMJ Mustang. I had been favoring the jazz and mustang lately as I’m trying to learn some busy songs that involve some stretching and lots of fast string skipping. But I dusted off the P last week and I have to admit it’s comfort in weight, non offset body, simple controls and that tone! The neck isn’t as fast but it’s comfortable in a different kinda way.
Let’s hear your reasons why you prefer a wider neck?

I don't. Medium hands so I like the 1.5 Jazz bass neck. The thicker the better.