well there you go, everyone. plstrns has spoken. everyone do the exact same thing he does and get on with your life.
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Will bass amps ever be obsolete?
- Thread starter Akito
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Jimmy, normally I see the humor.
This time I even stated IMO!!!!!!
But, you didn't get it huh??? Cool beans, cause when amps go away you'll be too old to care anyway!!
i'm already too old to care but i do 
amps ain't going away in our lifetimes. i've been hearing that obsolete nonsense for 30 years now. yes, there are some who don't use them. but they're far from obsolete and never will be obsolete. don't fool yourself. when the vast majority of pro musicians stop using them, then they will be obsolete. i don't see that happening at all.
anyway, you can say imo all you want, just don't say "buy the program I did and get on with your life" and expect people to react well to it. that's the biggest thing i hate about bass players...they're always trying to force their opinions on other bass players and try to get other bassists to do like they do like we're supposed to care. i have opinions but i will defend to the death your right to do things your way, even if i think it sucks for me.
amps ain't going away in our lifetimes. i've been hearing that obsolete nonsense for 30 years now. yes, there are some who don't use them. but they're far from obsolete and never will be obsolete. don't fool yourself. when the vast majority of pro musicians stop using them, then they will be obsolete. i don't see that happening at all.anyway, you can say imo all you want, just don't say "buy the program I did and get on with your life" and expect people to react well to it. that's the biggest thing i hate about bass players...they're always trying to force their opinions on other bass players and try to get other bassists to do like they do like we're supposed to care. i have opinions but i will defend to the death your right to do things your way, even if i think it sucks for me.
Running through the wedges forces you to get your DI send together.
If you don't have that down, the cards are stacked against you.
I did the Sansamp for years and it's an excellent value. I finally took the plunge and got the REDDI. A little big but it's great every time. Engineers look at it and are in love! I swear that's good for another 6 db in the front of house.
I'd give up my main axe before I let go of the REDDI.
Wedges? Sure. Why not?
I also think showing up without, at least, a tiny amp is lame... but if that's what they want then I'll see you 5 minutes before downbeat cool.
If you don't have that down, the cards are stacked against you.
I did the Sansamp for years and it's an excellent value. I finally took the plunge and got the REDDI. A little big but it's great every time. Engineers look at it and are in love! I swear that's good for another 6 db in the front of house.
I'd give up my main axe before I let go of the REDDI.
Wedges? Sure. Why not?
I also think showing up without, at least, a tiny amp is lame... but if that's what they want then I'll see you 5 minutes before downbeat cool.
1. yay
2. i will soon
3. yes, it is only a test. as much as love the vt, it's only a substitute for the real thing, not a replacement. look around...you see more svt's on pro stages than anything. and on the stages where there are no svt's, you still see plenty of other amps. rare is the ampless stage. one out of about every 25 bands i see is ampless. that's far from a majority.
2. i will soon
3. yes, it is only a test. as much as love the vt, it's only a substitute for the real thing, not a replacement. look around...you see more svt's on pro stages than anything. and on the stages where there are no svt's, you still see plenty of other amps. rare is the ampless stage. one out of about every 25 bands i see is ampless. that's far from a majority.
There was a time when producers thought, "Look, with this new synthesizer technology, there's really no reason to hire a bass player anymore. We'll just get the keyboardist to lay down the bass tracks". And we all know how well that "cool" technology has benefited the music industry. Luckily, things have turned around a bit and producers have come to realize the importance of hiring a band again.
Maybe in the future the bands will all be standing on stage with iPads around their necks, furiously tapping away on their glass pads while the entire audience listens to the music beamed to their earbuds, eliminating the need for even the PA system. And if/when that does happen, I sure am glad I had the experience of being able to play for years with a big 'ol amp behind me and a giant smile upon my face!
And that's what? 1000 times more than you started? It's coming if you like it or not!
a wedge is a monitor.I guess I'm living a dream life.... *** are you talking about? *** is a wedge?
There... Jimmy doesn't have to ask in his old age
and rare is the wedge that i like for bass. plus i sing and i don't want to hear my voice competing with my bass in the same wedge. and while i do have my di send together and it's pretty badass, i don't like it as much as popping a mic in front of my cab.
Really? You want to produce really cool bass amps and deny the fact that "bass amps will die"? Of course they will... They may take 50 years... who knows, that wasn't the question. They may very well take 50 years to go but, they will.... ultimately
Yes dammit... a wedge is a monitor, yet we never like them for bass. You sing? cool bro!! It's nice to know you're pretty badass too! I always liked a mic for bass until my fEarfuls! I know too much F rated info...
I understand players wanting to go ampless, it's convenient.
But there are those of us who play our amplifiers (they are instruments too, well good ones) as much as we play our basses, rolling down and up on the volume knob to cause the amp to react differently and provide different levels of distortion, playing lighter and harder to get different sounds, using the amplifier to cause harmonic feedback that wedges or IEMs just aren't going to give you, using a cranked tube amp for the compression it provides in a way that compressor pedals just don't. If there existed another way to do all of these things in a way that sounds AND feels as good as playing my amp, I might do it too. I'm a blues player, and hi fi tones don't have a place in my tonal vocabulary, and going direct with an amp modeler leaves me, as a player, feeling flat. Until that changes, I'll be glad to be playing my Marshalls!
But there are those of us who play our amplifiers (they are instruments too, well good ones) as much as we play our basses, rolling down and up on the volume knob to cause the amp to react differently and provide different levels of distortion, playing lighter and harder to get different sounds, using the amplifier to cause harmonic feedback that wedges or IEMs just aren't going to give you, using a cranked tube amp for the compression it provides in a way that compressor pedals just don't. If there existed another way to do all of these things in a way that sounds AND feels as good as playing my amp, I might do it too. I'm a blues player, and hi fi tones don't have a place in my tonal vocabulary, and going direct with an amp modeler leaves me, as a player, feeling flat. Until that changes, I'll be glad to be playing my Marshalls!
I don't think so. In my generation there's been a move back toward big heavy tube amps.
Who knows what the future 50 years from now holds for musicians, but do I believe amps will go away? No way. If all this old technology is going the way of the dinosaur, then, why are some musicians paying many times the original selling price for 40 and 50 old year old amps? Ever been to NAMM? There are far more amp companies building amps than ever. If amps are going away, then who are all these guys building amps for? And, why the resurgence of all tube heads, if nobody is going to buy them?
In ear technology is certainly a useful tool for some situations, but I'm certainly not worried about it putting my company out of business.
i have a countryman type 85, a vt bass deluxe, and a modded british character pedal, and i like certain things about each one. i've also had great results with the radial jdi and jdv, though i don't own one. i also dig the heck out of the reddi.
but so far none of them work for me as well as a good full-range mic in front of a cab.
So when you run through wedges, you mic the wedge and send that to the front of house?
Nice... I'll have to try that sometime :/
Nice... I'll have to try that sometime :/
