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Wireless and dynamics

There’s no doubt wireless performance and reliability have improved over the years. However it is still not 100% reliable. That’s just the way it is.

What usually happens is that it isn’t a problem until it’s a problem.

Cables always work and sound really good.
 
To OP : Keep in mind that a cable will ALWAYS Sound better and be more reliable than any wireless , no matter how much you pay.

Personaly , I'm always talking about it and I put the alarm at night to wake up to hate wireless some more

But I must admit that if you play on a 200ft wide stage and do backflips , Wireless is a must
 
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Which of the Shure GLX-D+ number is best for electric bass? I play through a Quad Cortex to FOH and IEMs. Not a lot of distance but lots of lights (big screen behind me). Appreciate the insight in advance.
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The 16 of course! I keep meaning to get the newer one, but the truth is I just don't see the need.
 
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To OP : Keep in mind that a cable will ALWAYS Sound better and be more reliable than any wireless , no matter how much you pay.

Personaly , I'm always talking about it and I put the alarm at night to wake up to hate wireless some more

But I must admit that if you play on a 200ft wide stage and do backflips , Wireless is a must
Gonna disagree with digital wireless units like the Shure.
 
Not true with a digital wireless.
So , you're saying that a Buffer> Analog to digital converter > RF circuitry > Air waves > Rf converter > Digital to analog converter chain won't change a single thing to the signal at all as opposed to a cable ?

Ok then ......

Gonna disagree with digital wireless units like the Shure.
I have a Shure ULXD4Q at work , wich is a +- 10K $ kit with all the stuff and a wired 58 sound definitely better when A/B 'ed.

That's one of the reason I came to that conclusion , it's because in my day job , I can compare these things regularly , on a daily bass ( pun intended )
And I face all the problems that can happen with wireless technology in general daily.

My point is just : if you don't ABSOLUTLY need a wireless , go for the cable
More reliable , sounds better , cheaper to buy , less latency , cheaper to operate , Better for the environment ( CO2 footprint )
 
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So , you're saying that a Buffer> Analog to digital converter > RF circuitry > Air waves > Rf converter > Digital to analog converter chain won't change a single thing to the signal at all as opposed to a cable ?

Ok then ......
Yes, that's what im saying.
However im not sure there is an RF converter with digital wireless.
Ans if there is one, I maintain quality is the same as a cable.
Only latency will be higher. But we are talking about something like a several milliseconds. No one will make me believe they can hear it.
 
There’s no doubt wireless performance and reliability have improved over the years. However it is still not 100% reliable. That’s just the way it is.

What usually happens is that it isn’t a problem until it’s a problem.

Cables always work and sound really good.

Not true, cables can fail, and usually do at the center wire solder joint at the luggage.

Just had another type of failure;
Last week at my weekday ampless gig (IEM), I don't use my wireless I use my cable. The cable started crackling badly... it came from the angled jack. The little rivet that holds the center lug finally loosened up after about 6 or 7 years of use.
So I replaced it with a straight jack
 
Not true, cables can fail, and usually do at the center wire solder joint at the luggage.

Just had another type of failure;
Last week at my weekday ampless gig (IEM), I don't use my wireless I use my cable. The cable started crackling badly... it came from the angled jack. The little rivet that holds the center lug finally loosened up after about 6 or 7 years of use.
So I replaced it with a straight jack
Yes they can - but the chances of failure are far less than potential wireless problems. If cables are tested and the plugs solid, that’s what I’d go with
 
Yes they can - but the chances of failure are far less than potential wireless problems. If cables are tested and the plugs solid, that’s what I’d go with
That’s fine, but in the real world, people make choices on what they choose to use and then, make backup plans.

You carry spare cables, right? So do it. I have a spare beltpack cable for my, well, wireless beltpack. And yes, I carry a spare 20ft cable in case my bass wireless quits. I’ve never had to use it. I did break a beltpack cable as I was about to go onstage. 90 seconds to grab the spare one and replace the broken one with a minute until downbeat to spare.

I’m not saying any of this to refute your points. But give it up already trying to discourage people from using wireless. You’re getting nowhere really quick.
 
That’s fine, but in the real world, people make choices on what they choose to use and then, make backup plans.

You carry spare cables, right? So do it. I have a spare beltpack cable for my, well, wireless beltpack. And yes, I carry a spare 20ft cable in case my bass wireless quits. I’ve never had to use it. I did break a beltpack cable as I was about to go onstage. 90 seconds to grab the spare one and replace the broken one with a minute until downbeat to spare.

I’m not saying any of this to refute your points. But give it up already trying to discourage people from using wireless. You’re getting nowhere really quick.
It’s your right to use whatever you want - as it is mine. I prefer the sound quality and reliability of hard wired connections as well as not having to worry about batteries or charging or RF interference
 
I just got the GLXD16+ recently and love it. It handles my heavy Wi-Fi usage areas without issues. I can't perceive any difference in sound quality between it and a cable, even when using a DI straight to a track and playing back on mixing headphones. The quality of the AD-DA is quite good, IMO.
 
I just got the GLXD16+ recently and love it. It handles my heavy Wi-Fi usage areas without issues. I can't perceive any difference in sound quality between it and a cable, even when using a DI straight to a track and playing back on mixing headphones. The quality of the AD-DA is quite good, IMO.
They don't really shout about it but the output on those is balanced. No di needed. Pleased you're enjoying it.