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Wireless Mic

Discussion in 'Live Sound [BG]' started by rapidfirerob, Jun 4, 2012.

  1. rapidfirerob

    rapidfirerob Fusion rules!

    The singer in my band has a wireless mic/in ear monitor set up. I don't think it was that expensive as it has feedback issues often times, but not always. Switching to a wired mic clears the problems up. He won't give up on the thing. Other than someone in the band stealing it and throwing it in a large body of water,
    any suggestions?
  2. What's the model # of the mic? Since he's using IEMs the only feedback issues are from the mains. Doubt the wired/wireless thing makes a difference, more likely an omni/cardiod mic difference. Unless the has a habit of wandering in front of the mains when wireless, and a short mic cord keeps him corralled behind the mains.

  3. rapidfirerob

    rapidfirerob Fusion rules!

    I don't know the model, but it feedback when he is standing in the middle of the stage. The sound man at our last gig said he should throw it away and buy an expensive wireless if he insists on using the thing.
  4. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    We need the model, or at least the brand.
  5. rapidfirerob

    rapidfirerob Fusion rules!

    I understand. He's sensitive about this subject. I was hoping to get some general information before broaching the subject with him. I don't know the best course of action to take with him. No other issues with the guy, thankfully.
  6. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Mic technique. Unless it's something like a Nady, it ain't the mic.
  7. Wes Whitmore

    Wes Whitmore Supporting Member

    Mar 10, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Just because he is IEM, doesn't mean the rest of the band is. It might be the other monitor levels. It might just be a crappy mic.

    I have been through lots of crappy wireless mics. Feedback aside, they don't always sound as good as the wired counterpart. Even the SM-58 PGX24 didn't sound as good as the wired counterpart, and thats about as much as an amature wants to spend on a mic. We ended up buying the SLX Beta 87 and have been very happy with it. Decent wireless is just expensive.

    Make sure he isn't cupping the mic. That causes feedback as well.
  8. rapidfirerob

    rapidfirerob Fusion rules!

    He's the only one with an IEM. The wireless mic seems unnecessary IMO. I used to play wireless and realized it wasn't something I needed, plus had no problems playing with cables. On rare occasions, he will walk off the stage to sing in the audience. "Decent wireless is expensive" makes sense.
  9. uhdinator


    Apr 20, 2010
    The non digital wireless sm58 sounds worse than the wired version as it uses
    Companding. Signal is compressed, transmitted to receiver then expanded.
    It changes the quality. New Shure digital
    Wireless units don't use companding.

    Cheap mic's sound like you're singing in a bucket and usually have more feedback
  10. rapidfirerob

    rapidfirerob Fusion rules!

    I believe the last line sums it up!
  11. Not necessarily true, and that's for every brand out there, it could very easily be the mic. Nothing man-made is perfect. Toss it and get another one.
  12. rapidfirerob

    rapidfirerob Fusion rules!

    As I said, we'll have to steal it and destroy it.
  13. TimmyP


    Nov 4, 2003
    Indianapolis, IN
    Turn down the transmitter gain so it isn't clipping all the time (most all come out of the box set for speech, not singing), and turn up elsewhere. This should give better gain before feedback.
  14. rapidfirerob

    rapidfirerob Fusion rules!

    I'll mention it to him, thanks.