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Wishbass Club pt. 2
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The jbarden isn't the only hum canceller in a J package, but it's the only twin blade one I can recall seeing. I have side-by-side noise cancellers from seymour duncan and delano in a pair of wishbasses. There are also stacked noise cancellers, but these, as well as most of the side-by-side models have pole pieces. depending on the string spacing it may or not make a difference...
...on my 3 stringer, the side-by-side ones don't work because the A string lands right over the top of the noise cancelling zone, and ends up being about 15dB or so quieter than the other two. I had to go back to the emg select for the time being but would still like to upgrade.
What does the barden run pricewise?
MJL told me the JBarten pup ran about $146, if I am remembering correctly. It's not a cheap pup, but is probably worth it.
I was specifically looking for a hum canceling jazz-bass style pick-up. Which I discovered that many companies make j-bass PUPs that are out of fase (or reverse wired) with eachother --thus hum canceling but they only work in tandem and not by themselves. And so the first pickup I bought for this bass was a Basslines QuaterPounder J-Bass PUP: only to discover that it was only hum-canceling when used with a second (out of fase) PUP. The Joe Bardens were the only ones I found that were hum canceling by themselves... and still touted the classic J-Bass sound. I think the twin blades negate the need for the second pickup as the blades are out of fase with eachother... (at least thats what I think I remember reading about them)... But there may be others out there...
I have installed Stan Hinesley Split J Noiseless pickups in several Wishbasses and love the tone....(and completely hum-free)
http://www.stanhinesleypickups.com/bass.htm
Stan will sell them individually (not as a set) if requested.
LexTron6K; We feel for you, man. I have had exactly the opposite experience however. Have you emailed or called? (I assume you have.) Wish has ALWAYS gotten back to me ASAP with any email I have sent (and I ask some pretty dumb questions!). Makes me wonder when he fits in actually working on his instruments. Anyone out there have a similar experience?
Keep the faith!
What did you do about the issue of these pups being open on the sides and not having the mounting screw offsets? Would it make sense to use the J style pup from his noiseless PJ set since those have the same moulded case like the EMGs? what do you think of that idea? Thanks ...
he's just showing the pickups without the covers...I'm sure his pickups come with covers and potted...
you can double check with stan, but I'm 99% sure that the pick is just for show & tell
Ah I didn't see those-- Very cool... which brings me to the second reason for the Joe Bardens... The G-String was off center of the two poles on that side and it kinda worried me as far as eaqual response. No need for strings to line up perfectly with the Barden blades, neh? Good to know about the Stan PUPS though... THANKS for the info!!!
My experience was excelent. I was in contact with Steve for about a year via email before I decided to buy (prolly emailed him 5 or 6 times), and his response was always within a day or less... almost immedietly some times (which kinda wierded me out).
In fact I had to rebuild my computer hardrive during the time he was working on my bass and totally missed his email to let me know the bass was ready... and so it was I who had dropped the ball in the communication area there for almost a whole month!
I researched (and vacillated) Wishbass for about a year before deciding to buy one and the ONE thing EVERYONE could agree on was that Steve Wishnevsky was "Johny on the Spot" when it came to keeping in constant communication with his customers...
Hope your issue get's resolved... he seems like a very pleasant fellow to me...
Yeah. Wish has always been incredibly quick at getting back to my emails. Sometimes I picture him sitting at his computer refreshing his email compulsively, all red-eyed and late into the night. . . .
The last time that I contacted him about it he basically said that he was waiting to get a couple more bass orders in before he purchased the wood, and that I should be patient.
My order was quite extensive and demanding, so I've been trying to just let Wish have the time to do what I requested, and the last thing that I want to do is rush him. So, no, I have not tried to contact him to figure out what's going on.
I'm just REALLY excited to get my first fretless. I just need to keep telling myself that the longer it takes the more time, thought and effort Wish will have to put into my instrument.
The last time that I contacted him about it he basically said that he was waiting to get a couple more bass orders in before he purchased the wood, and that I should be patient.
My order was quite extensive and demanding, so I've been trying to just let Wish have the time to do what I requested, and the last thing that I want to do is rush him. So, no, I have not tried to contact him to figure out what's going on.
I'm just REALLY excited to get my first fretless. I just need to keep telling myself that the longer it takes the more time, thought and effort Wish will have to put into my instrument.
Here is a diagram from the Bartolini site. They use two blades to get the cancellation. I have a 4 string and a 5 string Bart, both with the same outer dimensions, that work quite well. For the 5 string one blade is longer to cover 3 of the strings.
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Tone is so subjective. I love em. Very much like a Jazz pu, but....... different. If you go to youtube, and search jbybj, you will find my WB demo's. The Purpleheart Hyper, #943 is the 4 string Bartolini, and the 5 string fretted Scroll, #866, is the other one. The playing part come towards the end of the video, if you want to jump ahead.
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Ambrosia Maple wishbass on the bay, #1021
check out this one... I dig the wood!
check out this one... I dig the wood!
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I saw that one ysterday... I really dig the wood too... that body style is really starting to grow on me as well... I'm thinking about something like that for an EUB.
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Well, the good news is that the bass is done.
The bad news is that Wish seems to have f*cked it up. I asked him about the strange angle of the bridge on my high string.
"It looks to me like the high string bridge is perhaps to maintain an
even string space between the high string and the next lower string,
as if the bridge was not installed with correct spacing itself? That's
not good."
His reply?
"how about i put this in a box and ship it tomorrow, and there will be no
extra charge?"
I payed the $250 deposit, and I haven't payed anything more. So he's trying to sell me his instrument for ONLY $250, which leads me to believe that the instrument is seriously flawed.
I'm not too sure what to do here. I feel slighted.
The bad news is that Wish seems to have f*cked it up. I asked him about the strange angle of the bridge on my high string.
"It looks to me like the high string bridge is perhaps to maintain an
even string space between the high string and the next lower string,
as if the bridge was not installed with correct spacing itself? That's
not good."
His reply?
"how about i put this in a box and ship it tomorrow, and there will be no
extra charge?"
I payed the $250 deposit, and I haven't payed anything more. So he's trying to sell me his instrument for ONLY $250, which leads me to believe that the instrument is seriously flawed.
I'm not too sure what to do here. I feel slighted.
Also, has anybody in here ever seen a Wishbass with a truss rod installed? If I didn't know any better, I would have to say that I think that is the truss rod sticking out through the top of the neck there?!?
Wow. My faith in Wish is definitely plummeting. His reply when I asked why he offered this strange deal of his:
"that this was a pain in the ass build, i told you once i would fix the
bridge, and experience tells me that people who quibble and doubt my
word will never be satisfied.
I told you also that the pre amp was hard wired, and i have not changed
the specs or the wiring. So if you want me to ship tomorrow and be done
with it, just say the word."
F*ck. I want to take him up on his offer, but I feel that I'll be getting ripped off with a bass that he knows is f*cked up.
And what's up with the truss rod sticking out of the top?
Wow. My faith in Wish is definitely plummeting. His reply when I asked why he offered this strange deal of his:
"that this was a pain in the ass build, i told you once i would fix the
bridge, and experience tells me that people who quibble and doubt my
word will never be satisfied.
I told you also that the pre amp was hard wired, and i have not changed
the specs or the wiring. So if you want me to ship tomorrow and be done
with it, just say the word."
F*ck. I want to take him up on his offer, but I feel that I'll be getting ripped off with a bass that he knows is f*cked up.
And what's up with the truss rod sticking out of the top?
Wow. Here we go:
" I'll have to think about this.
If you could send me more pictures, preferably of higher resolution,
that would be of great help.
And is that the truss rod sticking out of the top of the neck? I'm
assuming that you don't normally ship your instruments like that, do you?"
And, again, his reply:
"yes and yes.. That's it..it is going on the truck tomorrow."
This is seriously messed up guys. From what you I've read on these forums, it seems that the guy is very good to get along with and very accommodating and proud of his work. Well, he's definitely not standing behind this instrument, and I'm quite upset about this.
At this point I'd be pretty content saying that this Wish fellow is a real a$$hole and anybody would be a fool to trust him to make an instrument.
This is incredibly disappointing.
" I'll have to think about this.
If you could send me more pictures, preferably of higher resolution,
that would be of great help.
And is that the truss rod sticking out of the top of the neck? I'm
assuming that you don't normally ship your instruments like that, do you?"
And, again, his reply:
"yes and yes.. That's it..it is going on the truck tomorrow."
This is seriously messed up guys. From what you I've read on these forums, it seems that the guy is very good to get along with and very accommodating and proud of his work. Well, he's definitely not standing behind this instrument, and I'm quite upset about this.
At this point I'd be pretty content saying that this Wish fellow is a real a$$hole and anybody would be a fool to trust him to make an instrument.
This is incredibly disappointing.
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