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Wooden Control Knob Tutorial

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I’ve been hanging around Talk Bass for a long time and I figured it was about time that I post something of possible value. So I decided to do a tutorial.

Lately, my focus has been on making custom wooden control knobs. I borrowed a few tricks from my artwork by using some exotic materials and some cool inlays. So I thought I'd show everyone how I make a simple knob. No fancy stuff, just a good looking functional item that will dress up your favorite instrument.

I know most everyone doesn’t own an engine lathe, but with this lathe I can achieve some extreme accuracy.
This tutorial is picture heavy….Hopefully it isn’t too long.

Woolly Mammoth Ivory and Snakewood
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Poly/Resin Casting
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Cocobolo with Sterling Silver and a Turquoise Cabachon Inlay
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I first make a dowel of the Cocobolo. This is done on a wood lathe.
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With enough material extending from the chuck, The Coco is shaped to the working diameter.
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Most barrel style knobs tend to be about .750 inches, although they can be made upto @ 1.25 inches if you like the speed knob style. Here I want to leave it just a tad heavy to allow for sanding.
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I bore a pilot hole in the base to help to keep bits from wandering around....Not totally necessary, but it is a habit of mine.
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A 1/8 inch deep recess is bored with a 5/8 Forstner bit. This recess allows the knob to sit down very low to the "deck" and hide the nut and washer of the pots/electronics.
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Next, a 1/4 inch bit bores a hole 3.5mm deep. This is the diameter of the pot shaft. Then bore another hole with a slightly smaller bit for the split of the shaft. I use an "A" bit (.2330) for this hole and you can see that I simply use a piece of tape for a depth guage....About 5/8 will do it.....If you are drilling for 6mm pots, I just make one bore with a "B" bit (.2355).
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With my combination square set at 3/4 inch, Adjustments are made to part the partially finished knob from the stock material.
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My first parting cut is made only partially into the Cocobolo.
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This allows me to sand the knob and soften the edges of the knobs with sand paper....Starting with 120 to do the roundover, then proceeding up to 600 for final sanding. Then a quick buff with grey 3M pads.
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The parting cut is then made.
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This leaves us with a partially finished knob which is ready for inlay and set screw work.
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For this tutorial, we’ll keep it simple and drill a 3/32 diameter about 1/8 inch deep for our position marker. Make yourself a jig so you can repeat your results on any matching knobs you may be making.
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I’m using the 3/32 position marker material from Stew-Mac…..A touch of medium viscosity super-glue and you’re good to go.
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With a pair of diagonals, snip off the excess plastic rod, being careful not to get too close to the top of the knob so you don’t deform the roundness of the plastic with the pressure from the cutter.
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With the rod clipped, it is time to sand flush.
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I sand the top down with 3M Stick-it sandpaper on Corian blocks. You won’t need to get very aggressive. The plastic sands down quickly. Here is where you’ll have to clean up the parting cut though. If you are careful, it should sand nicely without much effort. I like to use a circular motion with the head of the knob on the Corian/sandpaper. Obviously the picture is showing the sanding progress and not the actual sanding!
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The finished top ready for the set screw procedure.
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I drill the pilot hole for the set screw with a #30 bit @3/8 from the bottom skirt of the knob. This will allow the set screw to be able to grab the shaft and not the indented area of some shafts.
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Next we’ll tap the set screw hole with a M4-0.70mm tap. Take your time here and make sure you are square and perpendicular. I use 4 and 6mm hex head set screws.
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The finished threads! Extremely hard woods like Cocobolo and African Blackwood are great for tapping threads.
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There you have it! A very cool exotic wooden control knob. With the finish of your choice and then a trip to the buffer and you are done!!!!
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To make other types of knobs such as speed knobs, bells, capped knobs, and stacked sets, I have developed a few methods for holding the work piece onto the chuck. I can get into that at another time.
Well…There it is! I hope I didn’t put anyone to sleep.
Cheers!
Greg
 
Nice tutorial. :)

Nice timing as well since I'm in the middle of the process of making some knobs. Not having a lathe, I will be taking a slightly different approach, though.




One question:

You say that you drill the hole for the set screw so that it won't grip the indented part of the pot shaft. Why? Isn't the whole point of that indentation to give better grip for the screw?
 
Nice tutorial. :)

Nice timing as well since I'm in the middle of the process of making some knobs. Not having a lathe, I will be taking a slightly different approach, though.




One question:

You say that you drill the hole for the set screw so that it won't grip the indented part of the pot shaft. Why? Isn't the whole point of that indentation to give better grip for the screw?

That little scallop at the base of some shafts sits low enough to be able to pull the knob off center when you seat the set screw if your main bore is sloppy. Most people will bore with a 1/4 inch bit and it will be pulled to one side because of the looseness of the fit ......It is just something to consider. Besides, with my 1/8 inch recess at the bottom, you can't get much closer to the base and still have enough material for the threading. With the setscrew at 3/8 from the base, it puts it close to center on the splined portion of the shaft.
 
Nice tutorial. :)

Nice timing as well since I'm in the middle of the process of making some knobs. Not having a lathe, I will be taking a slightly different approach, though.

One question:

You say that you drill the hole for the set screw so that it won't grip the indented part of the pot shaft. Why? Isn't the whole point of that indentation to give better grip for the screw?

If you don't have a lathe but you do have a router, you can easily make dowels with a round over bit of the correct diameter. I bought a woodworking bench vise that didn't have a handle and didn't want to do something as crude as just some galvanized pipe and caps, so I grabbed a piece of Maple, cut it to 1" x 1", rounded it over, cut it to length and made some caps. One was glued on and the other has a screw, in case I need to remove it for any reason. I did the same process for the caps, using a 1-1/2" radius round over bit.
 
If you don't have a lathe but you do have a router, you can easily make dowels with a round over bit of the correct diameter. I bought a woodworking bench vise that didn't have a handle and didn't want to do something as crude as just some galvanized pipe and caps, so I grabbed a piece of Maple, cut it to 1" x 1", rounded it over, cut it to length and made some caps. One was glued on and the other has a screw, in case I need to remove it for any reason. I did the same process for the caps, using a 1-1/2" radius round over bit.

That's very clever. :) I never thought about doing it that way.

Making the dowels isn't the problem, though. I have already made those using a plug cutter:

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The challenge is getting the center holes perfectly centered. Especially on smaller knobs where the hole diameter is close to the size of the knob.

The solution I'm going to try is to put the knob in a dividing head on a mill and mill out a circle. I'll probably give it a shot next week when my dividing head arrives.
 
Have you tried a center-finding square? They work very well.

I wasn't aware that such a thing existed. They seems to work very well. :)


The broblem isn't measuring, though. I just don't have equipment that is precise enough to drill straight, centered holes. My mill only support up to 3mm bits and my "drill press" have a bit too much play.

I have made some knobs before using this equipment, but i still have a very slight (about 0,5mm) wobble in some of the knobs. It't not a huge problem, but the knobs on my headless bridge sit so tight together that the small inaccurancies could be noticed.

Sorry, my OCD derailed the thread a bit there. :hiding:
 
That's very clever. :) I never thought about doing it that way.

Making the dowels isn't the problem, though. I have already made those using a plug cutter:

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The challenge is getting the center holes perfectly centered. Especially on smaller knobs where the hole diameter is close to the size of the knob.

The solution I'm going to try is to put the knob in a dividing head on a mill and mill out a circle. I'll probably give it a shot next week when my dividing head arrives.

Next time, cut the knobs with the bottom facing up. That way you can drill the hole first, and with out moving anything, install your plug cutter. Everything will stay on the same center line that way.
 
Next time, cut the knobs with the bottom facing up. That way you can drill the hole first, and with out moving anything, install your plug cutter. Everything will stay on the same center line that way.

Good idea. You can also do the recess, allowing the knob to cover the pot nut and washer. Recess first, shaft hole second, plug cutter last.
Then you drill and tap the hole for the retaining screw. Put a rod the same diameter as the pot shaft in the drill chuck, fit a knob onto the rod and finish sand the knob. No need for a lathe.
 
Next time, cut the knobs with the bottom facing up. That way you can drill the hole first, and with out moving anything, install your plug cutter. Everything will stay on the same center line that way.

Good point. :)

It just won't work with my drill press, though. The plug cutter is so much longer than a normal drill bit that the travel of the "head" bottoms out. I have to loosen the head and move it down a bit. I also have about 3mm play side to side. I really wish I had the space for a proper drill press... :hmm:


oh, to the OP:

Where do you get that sterling silver ring/tube from?