Worship Bass Pedalboards

[NickyBass]

Ok. I messaged the WL and it looks like we're on. I'm excited to use it live.

 

[g4string]

Getting back on the worship team after a long hiatus. Used to have a Noble. But have since sold it have no plans to replace it. I'm not sure what the church provides nowadays. It used to be the Sansamp or Ampeg pedal DI…which is why I owned the Noble. Lol. So I need to build a board. They might offer up a Aguilar TH DI as their house DI. Dont get me wrong, the TH is a great pedal and I've used it in place of my Noble on multiple accounts. I don't mind using the TH….but, I'd prefer to use my own gear and I'm thinking I want to go a little different tone wise than what the Aguilar offers.

I'm looking at a basic set up….tuner>comp>preamp/di. The preamp that has caught me is the Origin BassRig…..possibly the black face model. The Capo sounds really good too. I'm not completely sold on a pre/di that has cab sim…but I'm thinking it's a feature I'd like to have.

So my question(s). (1) How does the BassRig and or Capo compare to other DI's you've used in the past (2) are these pedals sufficient on their own to be used as a standalone DI or would I need to put a JDI or some other direct box at the end of the chain (3) how useful was the cab sim at upping your IEM experience? Did it improve the FOH as well? (4) are there any other preamp/DI's would recommend at the 400-600 price range I could be missing?

 

[g4string]

Got to play with the noble live tonight with a full band and what I think is a slight mid scoop seemed even more noticeable? More testing is required for scientific reasons but for now, my ears prefer the khan as it just sounds freakin good with whatever is plugged in to it. Maybe the noble takes some tweaking? Or needs some EQ beforehand? Seems fairly simple, I did play with the low cut and boost bass "trick" as well.

are you using a preamp before the Khan!

 

[prndltech]

are you using a preamp before the Khan!

No, just the stomp and noble. It was much better Sunday, or my ears are adjusting to it.

 

[SteveC]

Getting back on the worship team after a long hiatus. Used to have a Noble. But have since sold it have no plans to replace it. I'm not sure what the church provides nowadays. It used to be the Sansamp or Ampeg pedal DI…which is why I owned the Noble. Lol. So I need to build a board. They might offer up a Aguilar TH DI as their house DI. Dont get me wrong, the TH is a great pedal and I've used it in place of my Noble on multiple accounts. I don't mind using the TH….but, I'd prefer to use my own gear and I'm thinking I want to go a little different tone wise than what the Aguilar offers.

I'm looking at a basic set up….tuner>comp>preamp/di. The preamp that has caught me is the Origin BassRig…..possibly the black face model. The Capo sounds really good too. I'm not completely sold on a pre/di that has cab sim…but I'm thinking it's a feature I'd like to have.

So my question(s). (1) How does the BassRig and or Capo compare to other DI's you've used in the past (2) are these pedals sufficient on their own to be used as a standalone DI or would I need to put a JDI or some other direct box at the end of the chain (3) how useful was the cab sim at upping your IEM experience? Did it improve the FOH as well? (4) are there any other preamp/DI's would recommend at the 400-600 price range I could be missing?

Tuner/comp/preDI is all you need. That's all I used on Sunday. My comp and preDI was a Stomp, but same thing. Sounded great.

 

[furym]

Instantl


No, just the stomp and noble. It was much better Sunday, or my ears are adjusting to it.

I think that last part has a lot to do with it. All of the DIs are great, tube and the high end non-tube as well. We get accustomed to a particular sound that becomes "our" sound and other things just sound odd in comparison. Once we adjust to a new sound we realize it is good in its own way.

 

[prndltech]

I think that last part has a lot to do with it. All of the DIs are great, tube and the high end non-tube as well. We get accustomed to a particular sound that becomes "our" sound and other things just sound odd in comparison. Once we adjust to a new sound we realize it is good in its own way.

I think you're correct. All good, just different. The coming months will tell.

 

[Johno Dunn]

Getting back on the worship team after a long hiatus. Used to have a Noble. But have since sold it have no plans to replace it. I'm not sure what the church provides nowadays. It used to be the Sansamp or Ampeg pedal DI…which is why I owned the Noble. Lol. So I need to build a board. They might offer up a Aguilar TH DI as their house DI. Dont get me wrong, the TH is a great pedal and I've used it in place of my Noble on multiple accounts. I don't mind using the TH….but, I'd prefer to use my own gear and I'm thinking I want to go a little different tone wise than what the Aguilar offers.

I'm looking at a basic set up….tuner>comp>preamp/di. The preamp that has caught me is the Origin BassRig…..possibly the black face model. The Capo sounds really good too. I'm not completely sold on a pre/di that has cab sim…but I'm thinking it's a feature I'd like to have.

So my question(s). (1) How does the BassRig and or Capo compare to other DI's you've used in the past (2) are these pedals sufficient on their own to be used as a standalone DI or would I need to put a JDI or some other direct box at the end of the chain (3) how useful was the cab sim at upping your IEM experience? Did it improve the FOH as well? (4) are there any other preamp/DI's would recommend at the 400-600 price range I could be missing?

Here's my latest, and couldn't be happier with the tone. FOH and through IE's. It even sounds great through my live rig.

 

[SteveC]

Digital, analog, there are so many good tones out there. I can make a "case" for any of them. What works for you in your situation is what matters. With most of the gear that gets talked about on TB, it's usually tiny/preference differences that many people wouldn't even notice. Lots of great boards/rigs/gear here to go around.

 

[prndltech]

Getting back on the worship team after a long hiatus. Used to have a Noble. But have since sold it have no plans to replace it. I'm not sure what the church provides nowadays. It used to be the Sansamp or Ampeg pedal DI…which is why I owned the Noble. Lol. So I need to build a board. They might offer up a Aguilar TH DI as their house DI. Dont get me wrong, the TH is a great pedal and I've used it in place of my Noble on multiple accounts. I don't mind using the TH….but, I'd prefer to use my own gear and I'm thinking I want to go a little different tone wise than what the Aguilar offers.

I'm looking at a basic set up….tuner>comp>preamp/di. The preamp that has caught me is the Origin BassRig…..possibly the black face model. The Capo sounds really good too. I'm not completely sold on a pre/di that has cab sim…but I'm thinking it's a feature I'd like to have.

So my question(s). (1) How does the BassRig and or Capo compare to other DI's you've used in the past (2) are these pedals sufficient on their own to be used as a standalone DI or would I need to put a JDI or some other direct box at the end of the chain (3) how useful was the cab sim at upping your IEM experience? Did it improve the FOH as well? (4) are there any other preamp/DI's would recommend at the 400-600 price range I could be missing?

in that price range have you considered an HX stomp?

 

[moorebass]

Quick Easter Sunday report on the DLA-2A:

We practiced for about 3 hours on Saturday and it took me 2-3 songs to dial in. I was sending a pretty hot signal, and at first the low end sounded squished. I tried messing with the emphasis knob while leaving peak reduction about noon, but ended up with my peak reduction and gain knobs both ~ 9 o'clock.

Once I got it dialed in... I can honestly say that my IEM and recorded sound has never sounded better. Despite the squishiness I first noticed, it is very easy to dial in when you know what you're doing. It also seems to pair really well with my Oracle.

-However-

The size of the LA-2A means that I can no longer use my Mono Club Case and am now carrying a much larger case. Also, in addition to the cost of the LA-2A itself, I've had to add a CIOKS 8 to the board to power it (my Crux is powering the Arkham Oracle).

Is the juice worth the squeeze? I'm not sure tbh. Going forward, I think I'll find myself utilizing my small pedalboard config (with an Empress/Khan) more due to the easier load in/out. Not planning on getting rid of the LA-2A, but it is a very expensive (and maybe impractial) peice of gear for part-time use.

 

[projectapollo]

So my question(s). (1) How does the BassRig and or Capo compare to other DI's you've used in the past (2) are these pedals sufficient on their own to be used as a standalone DI or would I need to put a JDI or some other direct box at the end of the chain (3) how useful was the cab sim at upping your IEM experience? Did it improve the FOH as well? (4) are there any other preamp/DI's would recommend at the 400-600 price range I could be missing?

I have owned both BassRigs, the CAPO, and Tone Hammer. My observations in no particular order. The BassRigs are terrific and sounded great at FOH and IEMs. But I found stacking effects in front of them was tricky and often resulted in unwanted extra drive from the BassRig and some farting. Could just be user error? But if you want the amp/cab sound, perhaps a one device solution, excellent. I'm still warming up to the CAPO, but it is certainly quite flexible and gorgeous tones. Lots of controls which causes me to fiddle a lot. I really like the Tone Hammer for worship and the AGS circuit is so easy to dial in, much less fiddling, the mid-emphasis cuts in the mix. The DI's on all of them sounded great to me. I previously had a Khan and own an RNDI, but I find these fancy DI's least impactful to the overall tone. IME the DI's from the preamp devices are just fine. YMMV.

Our @MikoFX is testing his new CAPO and we are eager to hear his review, soon!

 

[projectapollo]

Quick Easter Sunday report on the DLA-2A... I was sending a pretty hot signal, and at first the low end sounded squished.

I've had this experience with compressors on several occasions, thinking I have it gain structured properly, only to sound squished or pumping in the middle of the playing excitement. Moving to parallel side-chain and/or HPF compression has been a revelation, IME. The DLA-2A looks intriguing, however. It's always nice when you get your tone working for those important services!

 

[moorebass]

I've had this experience with compressors on several occasions, thinking I have it gain structured properly, only to sound squished or pumping in the middle of the playing excitement. Moving to parallel side-chain and/or HPF compression has been a revelation, IME. The DLA-2A looks intriguing, however. It's always nice when you get your tone working for those important services!

That's what the Emphasis knob on the DLA-2A does. I use the sidechain high pass on my Empress all the time, but I had better results with the DLA-2A in the default position. @scubaduba seemed to have similar thoughts in his review.

 

[Erithon]

That's what the Emphasis knob on the DLA-2A does. I use the sidechain high pass on my Empress all the time, but I had better results with the DLA-2A in the default position. @scubaduba seemed to have similar thoughts in his review.

Interesting. I find moving the emphasis knob to high pass more frequencies gives me better results. But I play a 5-string so that could be why. Those low notes can really cause a compressor to react more forcefully than I like.

 

[TomJ4Eden]

I'm new to the pedal train thing. I have tuner - Keeley compressor - Bass Soul Food - Boss Bass Chorus - Genzler Magellan pre/DI. I rarely use the Soul Food except for a few more upbeat songs. It has the right kind of sound for my tastes and I tried a few. The Magellan is the star though. It has a nice array of eq plus a pre/post switch for the DI. Also line in and headphone out for quiet practicing. Very flexible, it's a good unit.

 

[projectapollo]

That's what the Emphasis knob on the DLA-2A does. I use the sidechain high pass on my Empress all the time, but I had better results with the DLA-2A in the default position. @scubaduba seemed to have similar thoughts in his review.

I probably should have checked that out before posting.

 

[SteveC]

I'm new to the pedal train thing. I have tuner - Keeley compressor - Bass Soul Food - Boss Bass Chorus - Genzler Magellan pre/DI. I rarely use the Soul Food except for a few more upbeat songs. It has the right kind of sound for my tastes and I tried a few. The Magellan is the star though. It has a nice array of eq plus a pre/post switch for the DI. Also line in and headphone out for quiet practicing. Very flexible, it's a good unit.

Don't forget not one (like the heads) but two Contour settings, A and B can be set differently. Pretty cool.

 

[g4string]

What are y'all thoughts on the L6 HX Stomp as a standalone box?

 

[g4string]

in that price range have you considered an HX stomp?

going down that rabbit hole today. Looks like a really nice one and done option.