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I run the overdrive at 12, distortion at 9 midcut off and high cut at around 2 (I am not a fan of cutting mids)
Maybe I am just being picky but there was still some buzz/fizz that was bugging me. Maybe down to the way it interacted with the Tonehammer who knows!

Ok, I hear ya. Running a fairly high output bass (Dingwall Super J @ 18v) I found that at above ~11 o'clock on the OD knob is where I would experience a bit of unwanted artifacting. I found my sweet spot was rolling back the OD a touch and setting the Distortion slightly higher (it's super smooth). With lower output basses I could set both levels even higher before I ran into artifacts.
 
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It took me a few tries to like the Grizzly. Now I love it. It had always done well against my other drives, but it wasn't on my board. So, I loaned it out and was going to sell it once I got it back. I don't know if it was the absence or what, but when it was returned and I plugged it in, I really started to like it. Then I started talking with MikoFX about settings, and different ways to use it. It really opened up a lot of possibilities.

I'm using the Holy Fire (very similar pedal--basically a Grizzly except for the lower controls) on Sunday as an always on drive, since the whole song list benefits from a little drive. I'm also experimenting with placement. I kind of like it after my 'heavier' drive. Which in this case is actually a low gain drive pedal. But combined, they sound really nice and heavy. I just like what it does to the incoming signal. The other drive doesn't sound nearly as full without the Holy Fire behind it. I don't know where it will end up, but it sounds good where it is, so I'm probably not going to move it right away. I had it set up like that last Sunday, and it worked nicely.
 
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One important thing to remember about using drive is that an overdrive sound that works well in a mix often sounds pretty outrageous when soloed. A great example is Robert DeLeo's (Stone Temple Pilots) isolated bass track on Interstate Love Song. When you listen to the full track, the bass sounds great. But go on YouTube and listen to the isolated bass track, and it's pretty absurd. That's a concept Bethel's team figured out so well with the Tone Hammer.
 
One important thing to remember about using drive is that an overdrive sound that works well in a mix often sounds pretty outrageous when soloed. ... That's a concept Bethel's team figured out so well with the Tone Hammer.

This is 100% spot on. And before the use of the Tonehammer it was an overdriven V4B boosted with a moderately gained BDDI ran in parallel with a clean signal.

And as an aside... The Jesus Culture Music team was the first to use that technique at Bethel. Bethel Music adopted it later on ;)
 
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One important thing to remember about using drive is that an overdrive sound that works well in a mix often sounds pretty outrageous when soloed. ..... That's a concept Bethel's team figured out so well with the Tone Hammer.
Totally agree and realizing this the more I listen and study. I use a Broughton Calamity big muff quite a bit and solo it is outrageous but then in the mix in big choruses the layer of fuzz is perfect OD (Calamity has a dry blend). The big muff also has the benefit of following an octave pedal perfectly for a nice synth layer.
 
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Ok, I hear ya. Running a fairly high output bass (Dingwall Super J @ 18v) I found that at above ~11 o'clock on the OD knob is where I would experience a bit of unwanted artifacting. I found my sweet spot was rolling back the OD a touch and setting the Distortion slightly higher (it's super smooth). With lower output basses I could set both levels even higher before I ran into artifacts.
I think the Super Pre kind of spoiled me in a way…It has a built in cross over for the overdrive that lets you tune where you want the drive to start and finish.
 
I think the Super Pre kind of spoiled me in a way…It has a built in cross over for the overdrive that lets you tune where you want the drive to start and finish.

The Super Pre is an amazing piece of kit! If I needed an (near) all-in-one digital solution that would absolutely be on my board.

I envision something like:

Peterson Tuner > Broughton Subsonic > Effectrode LA-1A > Super Pre > Sushi Box More > DG Element
 
One important thing to remember about using drive is that an overdrive sound that works well in a mix often sounds pretty outrageous when soloed. A great example is Robert DeLeo's (Stone Temple Pilots) isolated bass track on Interstate Love Song. When you listen to the full track, the bass sounds great. But go on YouTube and listen to the isolated bass track, and it's pretty absurd.
STP has some great songs. Great rifs. Great tone.
 
One important thing to remember about using drive is that an overdrive sound that works well in a mix often sounds pretty outrageous when soloed. A great example is Robert DeLeo's (Stone Temple Pilots) isolated bass track on Interstate Love Song. When you listen to the full track, the bass sounds great. But go on YouTube and listen to the isolated bass track, and it's pretty absurd. That's a concept Bethel's team figured out so well with the Tone Hammer.

This is the way...

I use the Tonehammer with the AGS on all the time. I use the SoloDallas Bass-X as a second stage drive. It sounds gnarly on its own but in a mix it sounds great. I honestly don't even like my solo'd tone that much, but in a mix it sounds great and FOH is usually happy.
 
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Funny enough, back in the day while playing sets at IHOPKC, before JHS took off, Josh Scott was the one who introduced me to effects on Bass. Up until then I was playing either straight into an amp dry or through a BDDI.


Still got a Sansamp?! If so, do you ever use it?

I was playing around with the bddi v2 again and I forgot how useful it is. Always a great backup.
 
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Still got a Sansamp?! If so, do you ever use it?

I was playing around with the bddi v2 again and I forgot how useful it is. Always a great backup.

I actually traded it a couple months back. It was a little bittersweet, as it was the first 'pedal' I ever acquired. I held onto it for years with the thought of it being a back up, but I hadn't used it in over 15 years, so it was time. lol
 
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I think I will roll with this on Sunday…it's a classic ;)
 
One important thing to remember about using drive is that an overdrive sound that works well in a mix often sounds pretty outrageous when soloed. A great example is Robert DeLeo's (Stone Temple Pilots) isolated bass track on Interstate Love Song. When you listen to the full track, the bass sounds great. But go on YouTube and listen to the isolated bass track, and it's pretty absurd. That's a concept Bethel's team figured out so well with the Tone Hammer.
Yup. This is why the Capo is awesome. Great light-mid OD. And with the eq it can cop a lot of other similar OD pedals.
 
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Still got a Sansamp?! If so, do you ever use it?

I was playing around with the bddi v2 again and I forgot how useful it is. Always a great backup.
I've never used one, but I was listening to Janek's video and was surprised at the VT Bass Di from Sansamp. And I thought almost allof them sounded better with a P bass. :cool: