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Worship Bass Pedalboards

#12,861
Blille said:
Awesome, great to plan ahead. I think I used to do some kind of trick to use the flashback as a chorus. It has modulation inside, right? So you pick or create a patch that has chorus , make the delay be zero and boom there's your chorus while you wait for something dedicated.

Btw, I think the EHX Bass Clone is awesome value for when you decide to get a chorus.

Edit: I just checked the TC App, there's a patch for the flashback called "Chorus Only" and others called "Trichorus".
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I actually have the Bass Clone coming in tomorrow. I'm running lights this weekend (I'm the primary lighting tech) so I've got some time to learn it and practice with it, before I have to use it.

I all but forgot about the TonePrint feature. I have only used the Flashback on a couple secular songs early on in my learning bass. The same thing with the Vintage Phase, only training on a couple songs. Both of them are guitar pedals I carried over to the bass board.
 
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#12,862
MadJack said:
I actually have the Bass Clone coming in tomorrow. I'm running lights this weekend (I'm the primary lighting tech) so I've got some time to learn it and practice with it, before I have to use it.

I all but forgot about the TonePrint feature. I have only used the Flashback on a couple secular songs early on in my learning bass. The same thing with the Vintage Phase, only training on a couple songs. Both of them are guitar pedals I carried over to the bass board.
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That's great! Enjoy.
 
#12,864
Newest! I will tidy up the cabling before Service on Sunday.
 

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#12,866
I haven't seen it yet, but looking forward to watching! The way I'm running the 60B+ is probably not how most will choose to run it.
I just got the Humboldt today, and quite easily dialed in a tone I love!
I'm running bass>Humblodt>60B+.
In the Zoom I have the ZNR Noise Reduction>a parametric single band EQ to dial in the mids, and then the signal is split to left and right outs. Right will be straight through to the R out, and FX will be sent to the L out. These then go into a JHS Summing Amp then to the CabZoneX. This gives me parallel FX, and a lot more control of my effected signal.
 
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wolffire99 said:
Newest update:

Added the Walrus Ages in fx loop (guitar center was clearing out their most ugly signature ones for $99 and couldn't resist a deal)..... I love mode 2 for low gain drive and mode 5 if I need high gain (rarely). Surprisingly the Ages can get really close to the DCX in OD mode. Thinking about doing an A/B video comparing them
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I just picked up a used Walrus Ages at my local store, Knox Guitars. Are you still liking it? Any tips?
 
#12,868
Does the EHX BMS track better than most analog octave pedals? I notice a lot of people who use a pick while playing through the BMS don't seem to have any glitching issues. I'm never able to use a pick with a regular analog octave because it always glitches.
 
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Killens84 said:
Does the EHX BMS track better than most analog octave pedals? I notice a lot of people who use a pick while playing through the BMS don't seem to have any glitching issues. I'm never able to use a pick with a regular analog octave because it always glitches.
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I've played the bms with both pick and fingers and have had zero issues. I think compressor helps alot. The best tracking on analog octavers I've ever used have been the octavbre and the subsonic. At one point I had 15 different octaves. Only thing with the bms is I'd never use the -1 by itself, it's just not that good in that context imo.
 
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Killens84 said:
Does the EHX BMS track better than most analog octave pedals? I notice a lot of people who use a pick while playing through the BMS don't seem to have any glitching issues. I'm never able to use a pick with a regular analog octave because it always glitches.
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Yeah I'm always amazed at how aggressively those players attack with the BMS. Sure sounds good!
 
#12,872
dmc79 said:
Cool to see the Tone Hammer on so many well known 'big' worship band bass boards, but I take their settings with a grain of salt in terms of, I wonder how many of us realistically need their gain cranked like you see on a lot of these boards.

Some of them are well past noon and even around 3pm! I guess it works for those who play in a room with thousands of people and are 'competing' against a ton of other instruments, namely several guitars, keys / synths & acoustic drum kits, but I imagine those of us like myself who play in a room of say 300 people or less on a silent stage don't have much need for mega cranked gain on a TH.

I'm still learning with the TH, and I guess there is no right & wrong, whatever suits for your own setting, but low gain (no more than 9pm, even 10pm seems like too much) with AGS on (and low mids cut like on the boards pictured) seems to be the sweet spot for me. I don't need a ton of aggression (and hiss), just a sweet, slightly driven tone.

That's playing alongside (when we have a full band) electric drums, one electric & one acoustic guitar, and one person on keys & pads. P bass with GHS Pressurewounds, mix of pick & finger play, and currently no other effects (may get a Rat variant sometime, but even that would get limited use in worship I guess).

So yeah, whatever works, I guess the likes of the Bethel & Elevation bassists are playing in massive venues where it's almost like a rock concert, and frequently stomping on the Micro Synth for even more craziness in certain parts, I'm just not sure how many of us really need the bass to sound that aggressive in relatively small settings. At least here in the UK where 'mega churches' aren't really a thing for most worship bands. Don't get me wrong, it'd sure be fun to really crank it out, but in my setting it's really not necessary or helpful to anyone I think.
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I wonder if there's a cultural thing in what worship music sounds like in the U.K. vs the US? Obviously the influence comes across but imo British recorded/written worship music is stylistically slightly different and often is more melodic driven and on a Sunday morning has more obvious influences from either non Christian indie rock or a gospel/funk style depending … and that's more determined by the make up of the band.
I've not been to lots of small churches in the us (and it would be interesting) but I have a feeling in the U.K. our churches are smaller, and our worship bands are typically not as polished and professional as the US and style more influenced by the players than any band leader or church style - I remember years back having a flat mate from California blow my mind by the fact he would play bass at multiple churches - and it was a paid gig!!
In the U.K. you can have a church with three drummers, one who normally plays in a funk soul band, the next who plays punk and the third who's twelve and learning and the style of music (but not the songs) will change week to week depending who's playing - I get the impression, that a lot of you guys worship bands are focused towards a specific sound your band leader wants you to aim towards? ( It least that's why I guess there's so much uniformity in pedal boards on this thread!)
I guess also I've maybe not been to many mega churches in the U.K. and maybe that's different… but in our smaller churches and with less polished worship the gain comes down esp on bass - partly because it's not needed but also because with a more mixed level of abilities over driven bass in the hands of an amateur can go wrong!
 
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Killens84 said:
Does the EHX BMS track better than most analog octave pedals? I notice a lot of people who use a pick while playing through the BMS don't seem to have any glitching issues. I'm never able to use a pick with a regular analog octave because it always glitches.
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You can find a great advice on the treatment of analog octavers on Broughton Audio website:

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Synth Voice Deluxe | Broughton Audio

Sold out on December 9th. The Synth Voice is an original analog octaver that has extraordinary tracking, huge headroom, and heavy-hitting synthesized tones. This Deluxe model improves upon the original by increasing sustain, as well as adding active filters to shape the tone of each voice. The...
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  • Play finger style instead of with a pick.
  • Play away from the bridge and closer to the neck.
  • Favor pickups closer to the neck.
  • Use a compressor to even out your signal.
  • Improve your fretting technique to ensure there is no fret buzz or string noise.
  • Boost your signal before the octaver.
  • Use a tone control and/or EQ to cut treble frequencies.
  • Keep your signal clean (no overdrive/distortion) prior to the octaver.
I follow several recommendations above (I compress and boost the signal which I am sending to the octaver, all of my dirts pedals are after the octaver, I play closer to neck when using octaver). That way I can play my P bass with a pick using EBS Octabass analog octaver without any glitching issues.

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I used IMA's "Ultimate DI" with the fretless yesterday. Man, that heavier compression at the front end really made my fretless sing. Still had "mwah" and the feel was just solid. I was going to update to the latest "Noble" but I may just leave it as is. I may have to see what I can do for my cover band presets. I don't think I have enough blocks available. Maybe that's one reason why I see people with a compressor pedal before their Stomps?
 
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SteveC said:
I used IMA's "Ultimate DI" with the fretless yesterday. Man, that heavier compression at the front end really made my fretless sing. Still had "mwah" and the feel was just solid. I was going to update to the latest "Noble" but I may just leave it as is. I may have to see what I can do for my cover band presets. I don't think I have enough blocks available. Maybe that's one reason why I see people with a compressor pedal before their Stomps?
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That's great to hear!

I've always used a compressor before my stomp for many reasons: it's always on and it doesn't change between patches, if I change instruments it's easier for me to find the new threshold quickly thanks to the visual cue the compressor may have, I like to have a volume knob at the beginning of the chain, and, frankly, I'm pretty picky with compressors lol
 
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I did some rearranging on the board and made space for the Bass Clone that finally came in today. I removed the BDI 21 and Spark Mini, as I don't use them at church, where we run the Church's DI and into a DAW with an amp & cab sims.

It's still a work in progress and will likely be for a while.

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I did turn on all the LEDs on the power supplies, which makes for a cool blue glow from underneath. All the knobs on the effects are set to my normal settings, except the Vintage Phase and Flashback. While the Bass clone is set low, I like it there for fattening up the tone, overall and adding texture to the drives.

I'm still looking at a fuzz, an octave and maybe a better compressor. The Beheringer is surprisingly good for as cheap as it was!
 
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Blille said:
That's great to hear!

I've always used a compressor before my stomp for many reasons: it's always on and it doesn't change between patches, if I change instruments it's easier for me to find the new threshold quickly thanks to the visual cue the compressor may have, I like to have a volume knob at the beginning of the chain, and, frankly, I'm pretty picky with compressors lol
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I have been leaving my Cali76 at home for a couple of months, but I think I am putting it back again. I really miss having some metering since I change basses often.
 
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