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Worship Bass Pedalboards

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Blille said:
They are great. I’m somewhere there jumping around lol

The livestream audio engineer is a former Bethel keys player and the mix is great.

Also, I went a bit skeptical about the whole “spontaneous” thing and left very sold. It’s truly spontaneous and impressive from both a musical and spiritual POV. In that video there’s a couple instances where Elle, who’s amazing but doesn’t play with Bethel often, tries to pull a couple but it doesn’t fully land.

The bass players played a couple of jazz basses exclusively..
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I played bass for a spontaneous worship night last Thursday at my gf's cousin's house (he was hosting it and organized it. It was indeed a challenge without IEMs and a MD to direct the music but he kept us grounded with the NNS and putting up the fingers needed. The lead singer did an amazing job. She'd hint at the next song by singing part of the chorus or adlibbing the lyrics so we had an idea of where she was going.

Mind you, none of us have played together in a team, let alone in that setting, but WOW, was it powerful nonetheless!

I love spontaneous worship nights. Definitely will pray my team can pull off something like that.
 
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MovingPitchers said:
I love spontaneous worship nights. Definitely will pray my team can pull off something like that.
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I was invited to play bass at two of these events at two different churches this past winter and loved both! I'm now encouraging our big church WL's to organize our rather large team roster into 3 or 4 dedicated teams that play together regularly (rather than random assignments every week) and push each team to rehearse, gel, assign an MD, and be ready to take Sunday mornings in a more spontaneous direction. They recently announced plans to form dedicated teams for the fall semester!
 
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projectapollo said:
I was invited to play bass at two of these events at two different churches this past winter and loved both! I'm now encouraging our big church WL's to organize our rather large team roster into 3 or 4 dedicated teams that play together regularly (rather than random assignments every week) and push each team to rehearse, gel, assign an MD, and be ready to take Sunday mornings in a more spontaneous direction. They recently announced plans to form dedicated teams for the fall semester!
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Hmmm I haven’t pitched the idea of dedicated teams to my pastor. I do think it’s a fantastic idea as long as the super talented players aren’t in one team. I think he’d be open to a possibility as long as the veterans and experienced players are spread out
 
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MovingPitchers said:
Hmmm I haven’t pitched the idea of dedicated teams to my pastor. I do think it’s a fantastic idea as long as the super talented players aren’t in one team. I think he’d be open to a possibility as long as the veterans and experienced players are spread out
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I'm not opposed to having a "first chair" team who could set the standards, pursue excellence, move to the Nashville numbering method, and lead the way for the other teams. In competitive bands and orchestras, having a skills pecking order is normal. At church, this may be less comfortable to implement. Really depends on the vision and goals of the WL.
 
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projectapollo said:
I'm not opposed to having a "first chair" team who could set the standards, pursue excellence, move to the Nashville numbering method, and lead the way for the other teams. In competitive bands and orchestras, having a skills pecking order is normal. At church, this may be less comfortable to implement. Really depends on the vision and goals of the WL.
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The issue imo would be making sure the teams are named so that people don’t think they’re in a lesser tier or in a worse position than someone who’s in “Team A.” It might be mitigated by implementing the most talented and experienced players in each “team” and being one of the guides and mentors for those who are less experienced.

Of course for big event services or significant ones you can gather all the experienced members into one team just for that service but it wouldn’t be a continuous thing.
 
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I think having a more skilled team can be motivating to other players if done right. You have to do it so everyone else feels like they have a legit chance of getting in the rotation when they’re good enough and then help them figure out what they need to get there, invite everyone to rehearsals, and share the songs with everyone. That keeps it from feeling exclusive.
 
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wolffire99 said:
I think having a more skilled team can be motivating to other players if done right. You have to do it so everyone else feels like they have a legit chance of getting in the rotation when they’re good enough and then help them figure out what they need to get there, invite everyone to rehearsals, and share the songs with everyone. That keeps it from feeling exclusive.
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I agree. Finding a way to keep everyone involved and participating in some form is good! It’ll add to building the chemistry with one another.

It’s a dream for me but if God willing, who knows what amazing stuff csn be produced?
 
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Blille said:
25 keys is plenty.

I almost never have to change octaves to compensate for that.
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The 37 is definitely a lot and inspiring, but I'm not a keys player and I won't be doing cinematic crazy sounds like that. Our keys player will handle anything like that. The arpeggiator is a nice feature, but not sure when I'd ever use that. Synths are a different thing altogether. Wasn't there a Sub 25 masterclass on here a few months ago? Is that available online, even if for a fee?
 
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AObando2002 said:
The 37 is definitely a lot and inspiring, but I'm not a keys player and I won't be doing cinematic crazy sounds like that. Our keys player will handle anything like that. The arpeggiator is a nice feature, but not sure when I'd ever use that. Synths are a different thing altogether. Wasn't there a Sub 25 masterclass on here a few months ago? Is that available online, even if for a fee?
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Exactly :)

Re the class - Here you go


And



And part two of that one is here Master Bass Guitar Technique With Hillsong Y&F’s Tom Furby
 
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AObando2002 said:
For those who own a Moog Subsequent, is the 25 enough for the worship bass thing, or do I really need to spend the extra grand for the 37? I'm not creating house music in the immediate future. Thanks!
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AObando2002 said:
The 37 is definitely a lot and inspiring, but I'm not a keys player and I won't be doing cinematic crazy sounds like that. Our keys player will handle anything like that. The arpeggiator is a nice feature, but not sure when I'd ever use that. Synths are a different thing altogether. Wasn't there a Sub 25 masterclass on here a few months ago? Is that available online, even if for a fee?
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The Subsequent 25 is more than enough for Modern Worship Synth Bass lines.

Something else worth considering is the Behringer Poly D. It's price point is quite attractive, has 37 keys, and an Arpeggiator. Played side-by-side with a Moog you'll notice some minor differences in tonality, but TBH it makes little difference in a live mix.
 
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MikoFX said:
The Subsequent 25 is more than enough for Modern Worship Synth Bass lines.

Something else worth considering is the Behringer Poly D. It's price point is quite attractive, has 37 keys, and an Arpeggiator. Played side-by-side with a Moog you'll notice some minor differences in tonality, but TBH it makes little difference in a live mix.
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Yeah I saw that. I played one at GC and was so close to pulling the trigger, but the lack of presets is a little worrisome. Transporting from my house to church would most definitely affect something. I'd then have to keep track or take photos of knobs. Otherwise, I would've grabbed one.
 
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AObando2002 said:
For those who own a Moog Subsequent, is the 25 enough for the worship bass thing, or do I really need to spend the extra grand for the 37? I'm not creating house music in the immediate future. Thanks!
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The Sub 25 is a great solution and portable (custom case at Sweetwater). Moog was closing out the Sub 25 and I bought one for my church to match mine at home. No more lugging.
 
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projectapollo said:
The Sub 25 is a great solution and portable (custom case at Sweetwater). Moog was closing out the Sub 25 and I bought one for my church to match mine at home. No more lugging.
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That would be been a great idea for my home church, since I lug my wireless gear and bassboard with me every week. However, I play at 4 churches (adding a few more to PCO in the near future), so it wouldn't benefit me much. It would be nice to have though.... I could see myself using one on some songs I've played lately.
 

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