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Worst Career Move?

Unfortunately, it seems like Tom Petty’s worst career move was also his last in deciding to struggle through a tour with a nearly broken hip and getting through with the help of opiates. Whatever doctor thought it would be ok to prescribe fentanyl to a former heroin addict should be removed from practicing medicine. Another bright light snuffed out by the unfortunate combination of malpractice and addiction. Sucks.
 
He lives in the Coachella Valley(Palm Springs, etc.)which is not too far from me. I've seen him at Pappy's(my local joint)and 'down below' in Palm Desert at the Hood Bar, small dive place, both times he was brilliant, but I know he's quite capable of having a really bad night. For years he had a weekly residency/all-star jam in LA at a small place on Pico with Waddy Wachtel. He's certainly getting on, but I gotta tell ya, I think he is second only to Steve Marriott as the greatest male vocalist the UK ever produced in the rock era. The way he just owns "Stay With Me Baby", a relatively overlooked soul ballad originally done by a female artist(Lorraine Elliston, no slouch she)that is one of of those songs where if you're going to cover it, you better bring it or just stay home, is amazing.


I agree.. One of the greats..
 
And had John not married her, he likely would have not moved to NYC and.......maybe a 75yr old John Lennon today?
BS. He had wanted to move to the US for quite some time, but as he was deemed an enemy of the Nixon White House, he was legally stonewalled in his immigration efforts for years(you could say he was a 'dreamer'), let alone being hampered by individuals who wanted the 60's to just go away.
 
Fogerty signing with Zaentz

Grand Funk Railroad firing their manager (his contract would have been up if they'd just waited three months) and he ended up owning everything after the lawsuits.
If Creedence hadn't signed with Fantasy, Saul Zaentz's label, which had been strictly Jazz and edgy comedy(Lenny Bruce) up to that point, you and the rest of the world would never had heard of them. Up to that point, no other label was interested in the band, the SF hippie rock signing goldrush was over, Fantasy was a Johnny-come-lately to the rock music phenomenon, but seeing how well it worked out for labels like Elektra, didn't want to miss out. That Zaentz became a greedy controlling bastard in relationship to Fogarty's solo career two decades later(beyond milking CCR for all they were worth)is an entirely different story.
 
My list, counting down:
3.) Badfinger signing a contract with Stan Polley.
2.) Jimi Hendrix opening for The Monkees
1.) Brian Auger (Who? Exactly!) turning down Hendrix' invitation to record, join band.
The Brian Auger comment is as uninformed as it is disrespectful/dismissive; first of all, being in the Experience was no path to a long, financially successful career. So, what did Noel Redding do after being booted out, besides playing in a succession of floundering bands and dying an alcoholic in obscurity before he was 60? Even Mitch Mitchell, Hendrix's greatest asset, couldn't seem to get it together musically later on, in spite of being one of the most notable British drummers of all time. After suffering through heroin addiction, he sustained himself financially by selling off(for a considerable sum)the white Woodstock Strat which had been in his possession for years. Billy Cox ran a pawn shop. While Hendrix did employ keyboardists in the studio(Steve Winwood and Mike Finnegan the best known)and in the occasional jam, the way his music was structured in live performance, organ or whatever would have just been in the way. That doesn't mean that, had he lived, additional instruments wouldn't have enhanced his work, but he would have had to change his musical direction; we'll never know how that would have worked out. As far as Auger is concerned, while certainly no household name, he is no nobody, and I'm sure he has had no regrets. Besides giving Rod Stewart his first break, way before Jeff Beck, he had a band, Trinity(one of the, if not the first, organ/bass/drums bands in rock), that was successful in the UK, and went on to greater renown as backing band for jazz/blues singer Julie Driscoll, and that quartet had a number of hits. Granted, UK only, never could really crack the US market, but it's not like that didn't happened otherwise, there's been scores of worthy British bands that remained cult followed in America. What he did have going in America, in the 70's, was the Oblivion Express band, that got plenty of US FM radio airplay and gigs. He's played with Eric Burdon off and on for years, and has a current band fronted by his daughter. I saw them a few years back at a small jazz club in North Hollywood, the Baked Potato, and they were smoking. Oh, and he has the distinction of being the first (pop)keyboardist to rock the harpsichord, on the Yardbird's "For Your Love" session.
As far as the Monkees/JHE fiasco, can you say 'publicity stunt'? There's no such thing as bad publicity, and all those mothers who were outraged that their little innocent daughters were subjected to that noise by one of 'those people' just helped Jimi's rep as someone who was mad, bad, and dangerous to know, which of course sell records, even though it was furtherest from the truth. The Badfinger situation, I'd have to agree, one of the all-time saddest stories of being f'd in the music business, I wouldn't wish that on Bieber(well, maybe...).
Speaking of Jools, she certainly blew my preadolescent mind...

still at it...

Yeah, who's this guy? How'd he get in here?

Not shabby company...
 
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The Brian Auger comment is as uninformed as it is disrespectful/dismissive; first of all, being in the Experience was no path to a long, financially successful career. So, what did Noel Redding do after being booted out, besides playing in a succession of floundering bands and dying an alcoholic in obscurity before he was 60? Even Mitch Mitchell, Hendrix's greatest asset, couldn't seem to get it together musically later on, in spite of being one of the most notable British drummers of all time. After suffering through heroin addiction, he sustained himself financially by selling off(for a considerable sum)the white Woodstock Strat which had been in his possession for years. Billy Cox ran a pawn shop. While Hendrix did employ keyboardists in the studio(Steve Winwood and Mike Finnegan the best known)and in the occasional jam, the way his music was structured in live performance, organ or whatever would have just been in the way. That doesn't mean that, had he lived, additional instruments wouldn't have enhanced his work, but he would have had to change his musical direction; we'll never know how that would have worked out. As far as Auger is concerned, while certainly no household name, he is no nobody, and I'm sure he has had no regrets. Besides giving Rod Stewart his first break, way before Jeff Beck, he had a band, Trinity(one of the, if not the first, organ/bass/drums bands in rock), that was successful in the UK, and went on to greater renown as backing band for jazz/blues singer Julie Driscoll, and that quartet had a number of hits. Granted, UK only, never could really crack the US market, but it's not like that didn't happened otherwise, there's been scores of worthy British bands that remained cult followed in America. What he did have going in America, in the 70's, was the Oblivion Express band, that got plenty of US FM radio airplay and gigs. He's played with Eric Burdon off and on for years, and has a current band fronted by his daughter. I saw them a few years back at a small jazz club in North Hollywood, the Baked Potato, and they were smoking. Oh, and he has the distinction of being the first (pop)keyboardist to rock the harpsichord, on the Yardbird's "For Your Love" session.
As far as the Monkees/JHE fiasco, can you say 'publicity stunt'? There's no such thing as bad publicity, and all those mothers who were outraged that their little innocent daughters were subjected to that noise by one of 'those people' just helped Jimi's rep as someone who was mad, bad, and dangerous to know, which of course sell records, even though it was furtherest from the truth. The Badfinger situation, I'd have to agree, one of the all-time saddest stories of being f'd in the music business, I wouldn't wish that on Bieber(well, maybe...).
Speaking of Jools, she certainly blew my preadolescent mind...

still at it...

Yeah, who's this guy? How'd he get in here?

Not shabby company...
It actually wasn't intended to be dismissive, uninformed or disrespectful, but merely an observation. Obviously I know who Brian Auger is or else he wouldn't have made it onto the list. I think his work with Klaus Doldinger in Passport in the '80's was great, as well as The Oblivion Express. I just believe he would have been much more successful stateside had he partnered with Hendrix. That would have opened the doors for his later work (OE included). The Monkees tour was not so much a stunt as a "D'oh!!!" from a promoter. Badfinger? Tragic.
 
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If Creedence hadn't signed with Fantasy, Saul Zaentz's label, which had been strictly Jazz and edgy comedy(Lenny Bruce) up to that point, you and the rest of the world would never had heard of them.
I meant the particular deal he made with Zaentz -- I thought there was an adjustment offered later (one article says "According to Cook and Clifford, the band were offered a deal that would have given them 10 per cent of Fantasy Records") that Fogerty refused. Anyway ... just thinking that the bad career move was Fogerty not having a savvy lawyer helping him negotiate in those early days.
 
Probably not the worst by any means, but personally DLR leaving Van Halen and then being replaced by Hagar was horribly wrong in my opinion. It was like a bar of gold tarnishing into a turd. It ruined VH for me, so their career moves were horrible.
See now, I agree with Eddy who called that version the “Cadillac” version of VH versus the Volkswagen version. Hager actually sung the songs, whereas Dave mostly talked and had little screeches he would sprinkle into the songs. But the guy could jump around a lot and had a funny way about him.
 
Great description - reminds me of Cream - one of those incandescent moments in time that can't possibly last.
I don’t know that there were so much ‘creative differences’; mirevthat Sting was becoming a star in his own right and wanted his own stage. At least that’s what I remember from back in the day. I did see them on that first NA your at a bar in Poughkeepsie, NY. There were maybe 20 of us in attendance. Their act was, to see the least, raw. But, always love this band. And their team noon thing (2011?) was excellent too.
 
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I don’t know that there were so much ‘creative differences’; mirevthat Sting was becoming a star in his own right and wanted his own stage. At least that’s what I remember from back in the day. I did see them on that first NA your at a bar in Poughkeepsie, NY. There were maybe 20 of us in attendance. Their act was, to see the least, raw. But, always love this band. And their team noon thing (2011?) was excellent too.
at the Chance, by any chance? (one of my old haunts way back when). ;)
 
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