I had a 734a, it had a dual action truss rod. I had to use the push feature to get it into bow, but it settled down after months and eventually I just had to snug up the rod.
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Would you keep it or return? Completely loose truss rod and no relief.
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I got a Player Precision. I prefer the Fender P pickup to the Yamaha. A little more organic.
Of course there is no J pup but I'm not a fan of PJs. I think when combined, the D and G strings are very nasal sounding. And the J soloed sounds weak, IMHO.
I think Yamaha tried to overengineer these Basses. If your willing to step to the BBJP Japanese version you'll get one that performs well but too many "trick" ideas like the 5 piece neck and the way the strings thru body is designed don't provide what they promise. There's a reason why the Precision Bass has endured. And the Player is actually very faithful to the original design with a couple of welcome mods like easier truss access and, for my money, a very comfortable neck. On paper I loved the Yamaha. In practice it didn't come together for me.
That said, I'm sure others are happy with their bass but this is the 3rd time I've heard someone complain that they couldn't get any neck relief.
Good luck with your decision.
return it, return it, return it.
that is a warped neck. we don't think of warped as "dead flat with strings on and truss rod not engaged," but it is warped backwards, just enough to be a problem.
a perfect neck would be set to a desirable relief (.010 ior a little more) with the truss rod engaged, but not cranked down tight.
on a new bass, no way should you deal with that.
that is a warped neck. we don't think of warped as "dead flat with strings on and truss rod not engaged," but it is warped backwards, just enough to be a problem.
a perfect neck would be set to a desirable relief (.010 ior a little more) with the truss rod engaged, but not cranked down tight.
on a new bass, no way should you deal with that.
A shim changes the neck angle. It does nothing about relief.
It's not too common for a bass to have a Dual acting truss rod so many have never experienced one. So again before you return it you need to confirm what it has . It's totally normal for a DA rod to go loose when in it's zero'd or neutral position .
I'm thoroughly confused by these threads. My new bass is broken, should I return it?
My new car doesn't start, should I push it with my foot out the door while steering?
I return everything that isn't the way it should be. I recently received an effects pedal that was totally inoperable, within minutes I was on the phone getting the matter taken care of.
Money isn't something given to me for no effort. Therefore when I spend it, I want things that function correctly and I don't want to waste money and own broken items.
My new car doesn't start, should I push it with my foot out the door while steering?
I return everything that isn't the way it should be. I recently received an effects pedal that was totally inoperable, within minutes I was on the phone getting the matter taken care of.
Money isn't something given to me for no effort. Therefore when I spend it, I want things that function correctly and I don't want to waste money and own broken items.
I bought a brand new Fender Tony Franklin neck from The Stratosphere and it had a back bow with no tension on it and still a slight back bow with the strings tuned up to pitch. Truss rod completely loose. I let it sit for a while but it still didn't have any relief in it. I returned it for a full refund and it was back up for sale on their site within a week.
I'd return the bass.
I'd return the bass.
If it's got a DA truss rod in it, it's not broken. Being able to add relief is what DA truss rods are for.
If not, though, while I agree too little relief with no TR help is usually a bass player's wet dream,
, if you can't adjust it the way you want with the strings you want on it, then yeah it's broken enough to return or get repaired under warranty, etc.
I've only had one bass in my entire life where I needed to add relief with its DA truss rod: my Carvin Brian Bromberg 5 (deceased, may it R.I.P.). It changed with the weather, sometimes with the rod completely loose and when it got cold, it needed a slight amount of "reverse" action to take out too much negative relief.
Otherwise, we usually have the problem in the other direction.
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If not, though, while I agree too little relief with no TR help is usually a bass player's wet dream,
, if you can't adjust it the way you want with the strings you want on it, then yeah it's broken enough to return or get repaired under warranty, etc. I've only had one bass in my entire life where I needed to add relief with its DA truss rod: my Carvin Brian Bromberg 5 (deceased, may it R.I.P.). It changed with the weather, sometimes with the rod completely loose and when it got cold, it needed a slight amount of "reverse" action to take out too much negative relief.
Otherwise, we usually have the problem in the other direction
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If it is new there is a warranty for that reason and your issue would be covered. It's better for you to get what you paid for. And it is better for the manufacturer because they implement continuous improvement actions based in part on the defects that are reported which makes them better. The dealer gets allowance for the return from them brand so nobody loses.
I've had some really inexpensive basses that had DA truss rods and would try that first. Several of my basses recently needed truss rod adjustments due to the onset of summer and the turning off of the heat at home. If you like the bass, give it a try otherwise send her back.
Lotta great tips here on how to "fix the problem", but I if I buy a brand-new bass and pay dealer markup, it just plain should not have any problems. Otherwise I'd just buy a beatup used one and fix that.
Return it and get another one if you liked it; Yamahas rarely have problems.
Return it and get another one if you liked it; Yamahas rarely have problems.
How do we know its broke? I read he found truss loose, but did not nothing.
Did OP tighten truss rod?
I am an idiot, it is a dual action truss rod. I kept spinning it and it started to tension the other way. Never had a dual action truss rod so when it went slack I thought I was hooped. This is why talk bass is great, helps solve silly user error.
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Did you read the original post? "I adjusted the truss to loosen it to get a bit of concave and the truss rod is fully loose."
Although it turned out to be user error, he originally thought it wasn't working correctly, ipso facto I assumed it was broken.
You are not an idiot. Glad you got it figured out. It could happen to anybody.
