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Xotic XJPRO-1: Does Anybody have one?





These have been out a while, I think. I know they were reviewed a while back in Bass Player (the Lenny Kravitz issue.) Has anybody bought one? How do they compare with Skyline other than the Xotics are active ? How do they compare Sadowsky Metroline Express or Fender Elite Basses?


Man, who wouldn’t want one after hearing grooves like that!
 
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I’ve never had a metro but I’ve had 2 different Elites. As far as construction, the Xotics are put together very well. The control cavity is clean. I’ve had 3 Xotics and they all came with low action and played great. The preamp is very musical. You can max out everything and still get a usable tone. I like the stock pickups. However, I will be installing some Aguilar HCs in mines. They are very lite weight. They are definitely lighter than the Elites.

Here’s a sample of my first Xotic Provintage.

 
I’ve never had a metro but I’ve had 2 different Elites. As far as construction, the Xotics are put together very well. The control cavity is clean. I’ve had 3 Xotics and they all came with low action and played great. The preamp is very musical. You can max out everything and still get a usable tone. I like the stock pickups. However, I will be installing some Aguilar HCs in mines. They are very lite weight. They are definitely lighter than the Elites.

Here’s a sample of my first Xotic Provintage.



Thanks for the clip. Your playing and the best sounds great.
 
I’ve never had a metro but I’ve had 2 different Elites. As far as construction, the Xotics are put together very well. The control cavity is clean. I’ve had 3 Xotics and they all came with low action and played great. The preamp is very musical. You can max out everything and still get a usable tone. I like the stock pickups. However, I will be installing some Aguilar HCs in mines. They are very lite weight. They are definitely lighter than the Elites.

Here’s a sample of my first Xotic Provintage.


I’ve always loved the clean musical tone of that model!
 
Hi, i've tried a XJ-1T 5, fantastic sound and playability! but i can't figure out the difference between models, XJ-1T vs XJ PRO: what's exactly the difference, apart from the 2 small visibles switches ?? Thank you for the answer
 
@Dr. Cheese,

Hopefully this is still relevant. I just purchased a XJ-1T (4 string). Here are my own thoughts after having it for a week.

Build quality is excellent, paint was flawless (nicely done transparent creamy yellow over the Ash body) and the oil finish on the neck is terrific and seems thin - easy to really feel the wood. Maple neck and fretboard is of one piece of maple. Frets are done well too. Eventual fret sprout is likely in dry Colorado, but I'll deal with that when/if it happens - then re-oil the neck if/as needed after the frets are re-dressed.

I'm primarily a finger style player and can slap a bit but I'm not great at it. Finger style sound deep, full, warm and bell like in the highs. Slap is crisp and defined. EQ lets the player tailor the finger or slap sound to suit their tastes.

The neck is thin and not wide - again, feels like a J-Bass. The wooden pickup covers are a nice touch. Top of the pickup cover is chamfered as a thumb rest if you're a non-floating thumb player. The neck heel is also slanted just a bit to make the the higher frets more accessible - nice touch and without a neck plate too.

Bass came with very low action - I raised it a bit and set intonation after installing new strings. Pre is musical and bass is silent (no hum/buzz) hands on or off the strings.

Mid and treble switches work well - mid switch especially - easily adds low-mid punch when set that way. I set the active level to match passive as it came a bit higher when in active mode (adjustment is under the rear cover). Watch out when adding too much bass/mid/treble on the active pre and using the switches. It's easy to overload your amp's pre input.

Passive mode is very nice too. Clean and deep with sparkly J-Bass highs. Boosting the treble and using the treble switches at 6 kHz can make the treble a bit honky to my own ears. I pretty much leave the treble switch at 12 Khz and dim the treble on the pre or the main treble control when in active mode. That brings the string brightness down a bit, but keeps the sparkly highs present.

Still working with the Pre Mid control though. I like it best with it dimmed ~10-15% from the center detent. If I boost the Mids, I'll dial back the Pre Bass control and keep the Treble dimmed too.

IMHO, the front pickup is warm, but not P-Bass Mids warm - but changing the switch to 400 Hz and adding some Mids gets it close. Yes, it's got tons of deep tones in passive mode too - and the balance control dialed to the neck pickup keeps the bass warm and P-Bass (ish). It's even better (and with more control) when in active mode and dialing in the switches and/or using the active pre controls - again, it gets very close - but I already have a P-Bass with flats for those tones so it's a bit irrelevant.

The down side is that IMHO, the rear pickup doesn't really get that barky /burpy J-Bass bridge pickup tone - more nice warmth and clear tone than barky/burpy. I'm still working with it though to figure it out. It "may" be in there, but I haven't been able to dial it up yet.

Frankly, it sounds and feels like a very high quality Jazz bass - think Sadowsky level quality. Quiet for the studio - and not affected much in EMI/RFI heavy environments. In my own music room, all of my other basses hum - this one is dead silent.

The only other ding that I can find is that there isn't a separate battery compartment. IMHO there should be one as changing the battery requires a screwdriver and shouldn't.

Look, IMHO this bass tends towards more of a 70's Jazz Bass tonality when set flat, but I can dial it up to a 60's tone or darn close to a P-Bass tone too. If I had only one bass to carry in my bass quiver, I'd likely choose this bass due to it's great versatility - and doing all of the tones that I need well. For me, there are times that a Precision with flats just can't cover the tunes that I play. Can't say how this one would sound with flats as that's not it's job. But if I only had one bass, I wouldn't feel queasy in stringing this one up with flats and playing just about everything I currently play with it. Good to know that I don't have to either.

Lastly, I changed out the strings to Kalium's and they sound great - deep and warm or bright and snarly. Came with what appeared to be DR or DA stainless strings (Xotic lists them as their own branded stainless strings).

So, now I'm up to 5 basses again - Upright, Fender Precision, Xotic Jazz, Fender/Warmoth Fretless P/J and a Breedlove ABG Fretless. With these 5 I can pretty much cover anything I'll ever play. Call me GAS over for a bit. :)

Oh, and here's mine. Pics were pre string change though...

John

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@Dr. Cheese,

Thanks!

Unsure how a 5 string will sound, but if my "C" string is indicative of a low "B" string, it'll sound outstanding. Long ago most string manufacturers sought to turn out a string that had "piano" like qualities. My "C" string Kalium's gets there in spades - really full and rich sounding in my IEMs.

Too bad the videos that you posted don't really go through the controls that well either. I couldn't find any real samples on-line of anyone going through the control either - just players playing, which ain't so bad. I'd also like to hear it strung up with a light set of flats - as I think that'd sound awesome too.

FWIW, I played a bit (in 4ths) with the original strings. The stainless set that came installed were a tad harsh/brittle sounding, but not bad. Kalium Hybrids (to my ear) sound like a Jazz bass should. I've tried/used the Kalium stainless strings too - and they sound a bit more worn in initially than the Xotic strings. Again, may be just my ear though.

Interesting too that the bass initially struck me as a 70's style v. a 60's style Jazz. Likely an oversimplification but IMHO, most 60's basses sound warmer than 70's basses. This bass is "lively" MUCH more 70's (ish) than 60's (ish).

One more thing - I strung the bass top loaded and not through body. When I ordered the strings from Kalium, I ordered standard length instead of the longer ones. I also ordered the strings as a fairly light set (again in 5ths, not 4ths or standard tuning) - and at the same time I ordered a slightly heavier set (.130 B on the light set and .136 on the heavier set). When tuned to B with a .130, string is tight and sounds very good. Tuned up a half step to C, it sound better. Not sure what that means though, Will a heavier or lighter sound better? Unsure... I am going to try a .125 (ish) low C from Kalium as a matched set after these go dull and I try out the heavier set.

John
 
One more item (for those that care) - controls on the older instruments differ from the newer instruments.

Easy way to tell whether the bass is old or new spec is to see if the second or blend control is a push/pull.

Current spec is Volume/Blend/Tone then Bass/Mids/Treble. Front Volume control is push/pull for passive. The Blend is NOT a push/pull in this version of the electrics.

Older spec was... Volume/Volume/Tone. First Volume is a push/pull for active/passive. Second Volume control is also push/pull, but the pull is not a passive switch, but instead it is a parallel to series switch where the (pulled) Volume control has no effect on output volume - only the front Volume control does. The Pull'd switch for parallel to series works when the first Volume is in parallel or series. Parallel to Series does add some additional heft to the tone.

Active tone controls (B/M/T +/-12dB each) are the same on the old or new spec version, but the preamp itself is a different model. Also the new versions have the inductor coil to help with 60Hz hum. FWIW, mine is the older version (2nd Volume is Parallel/Series) and even in high EMI/RFI environments it is dead quiet - so the extra inductor may help in other environments, but mine is already good to go.

Not knowing there were different versions of the electrics caused a bit of consternation until I reached out to Xotic. They helped me quickly and efficiently.

John