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XTC

Bob_Ross

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I wrote this yesterday in another forum where someone had mentioned XTC (the English band...Andy Partridge, Colin Moulding, Dave Gregory et al) but since that was an Off Topic post in a non-music forum, I figure the question/concept might get more traction here.

XTC is a weird band in my personal listening history...through no fault of their own, I certainly think their music is clever and exquisitely well-crafted and catchy etc. ...but more because of how different it is from all the other music that I've liked but that has prompted other people to recommend XTC to me.

This phenomenon first started back in the very early 1980s when I was still an undergraduate at music school.

Preface: During my teenage years I was mostly listening to archetypal 1970s British prog-rock (e.g., Yes, King Crimson, Gentle Giant) and nascent jazz-rock fusion (e.g., Mahavishnu Orchestra, Return To Forever, Weather Report). Plus lots of Beatles, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd... and some Classical music, and some "normal" Jazz, and some musical theater.

But by the early 1980s though I was getting really into certain pop/New Wave/post-punk bands...definitely not all of them though; there were only some that seemed to incoprorate (sometimes subliminally) the depth and sophistication I had enjoyed from the prog and fusion bands within their seemingly stripped down pop songs...e.g., The Police, Talking Heads, Peter Gabriel, Romeo Void, The Fixx, Missing Persons, Tears For Fears, Japan, Thomas Dolby, the Adrian Belew-era of King Crimson, etc.

Anyhow, circa 1980 nearly all my college buddies had similar musical tastes and personal listening histories: They all started with prog-rock and fusion, then gravitated to this Police/Talking Heads-type pop.

And so -- here's the part that to this day I don't get -- all my college buddies who had similar tastes and personal listening histories all said "Oh, you also must love XTC!"

:shrugs:

Well, I didn't "love" XTC at the time. (I probably still don't, though I do respect them immensely.) The thing I genuinely don't get is how XTC fits into the aesthetic I just described. I don't hear any connection between XTC's music and Police/Talking Heads-by-way-of-1970s-prog-rock-or-jazz-fusion.

And yet it wasn't just my undergraduate buddies who thought I would like XTC: Folks throughout my life, even recently, once they hear about the music I grew up with, assume that I must also like XTC!

It's inexplicable. And uncanny.

Anyone else experience this? And/or, anyone understand what it is that so many of my aquaintances hear in XTC's music that makes them think I would love it?
 
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Which era of XTC?

There is a big difference between their start and Apple Venus.

Well, since the phenomenon started circa 1980, it would have to be the era prior to that...but A) if that still encompasses multiple XTC eras I can't say, as I never followed them too closely to know; and B) since it still happens on occasion it could conceivably mean any era.
 
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I wrote this yesterday in another forum where someone had mentioned XTC (the English band...Andy Partridge, Colin Moulding, Dave Gregory et al) but since that was an Off Topic post in a non-music forum, I figure the question/concept might get more traction here.

XTC is a weird band in my personal listening history...through no fault of their own, I certainly think their music is clever and exquisitely well-crafted and catchy etc. ...but more because of how different it is from all the other music that I've liked but that has prompted other people to recommend XTC to me.

This phenomenon first started back in the very early 1980s when I was still an undergraduate at music school.

Preface: During my teenage years I was mostly listening to archetypal 1970s British prog-rock (e.g., Yes, King Crimson, Gentle Giant) and nascent jazz-rock fusion (e.g., Mahavishnu Orchestra, Return To Forever, Weather Report). Plus lots of Beatles, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd... and some Classical music, and some "normal" Jazz, and some musical theater.

But by the early 1980s though I was getting really into certain pop/New Wave/post-punk bands...definitely not all of them though; there were only some that seemed to incoprorate (sometimes subliminally) the depth and sophistication I had enjoyed from the prog and fusion bands within their seemingly stripped down pop songs...e.g., The Police, Talking Heads, Peter Gabriel, Romeo Void, The Fixx, Missing Persons, Tears For Fears, Japan, Thomas Dolby, the Adrian Belew-era of King Crimson, etc.

Anyhow, circa 1980 nearly all my college buddies had similar musical tastes and personal listening histories: They all started with prog-rock and fusion, then gravitated to this Police/Talking Heads-type pop.

And so -- here's the part that to this day I don't get -- all my college buddies who had similar tastes and personal listening histories all said "Oh, you also must love XTC!"

:shrugs:

Well, I didn't "love" XTC at the time. (I probably still don't, though I do respect them immensely.) The thing I genuinely don't get is how XTC fits into the aesthetic I just described. I don't hear any connection between XTC's music and Police/Talking Heads-by-way-of-1970s-prog-rock-or-jazz-fusion.

And yet it wasn't just my undergraduate buddies who thought I would like XTC: Folks throughout my life, even recently, once they hear about the music I grew up with, assume that I must also like XTC!

It's inexplicable. And uncanny.

Anyone else experience this? And/or, anyone understand what it is that so many of my aquaintances hear in XTC's music that makes them think I would love it?
One of the greatest British bands evah!!! Yes, the first two albums occupy a certain space, I got turned on to them right about the time Go2 came out, so I jumped on that first. Wore it out. Had I heard White Music first, I would have had a different first impression. They obviously were still working things out, but it definitely had some moments; as well, there were some weak spots on the second. Keyboardist Barry Andrews certainly had a unique style, and when he split, and I heard he was replaced by a guitarist, I was a bit disappointed. But Dave Gregory was more than I hoped for, and Colin had stepped up his songwriting to match Andy.
Black Sea was a masterwork; the Beatle touchstones started coming in, and I got to see them live twice in that period. It’s funny that you mentioned Crimson, Andrews quickly moved on to play with Fripp in the League Of Gentlemen project.
 
Another quirky fact…after LOG, Andrews gigged with Iggy Pop, then started the band Shriekback(another fave of mine)with former Gang Of Four bassist Dave Allen. First single, “My Spine Is The Bassline”…gotta love that title. Allen’s replacement in Go4 was LOG bassist Sara Lee, how ironic.
Andy and Colin’s inspirations came from a lot of 60’s sources; their sideline spoof, as The Dukes of the Stratosphere, was a brilliant Rutles style send-up of the psychedelic era, and it revitalized their career. That they went through different phases just marks their evolution. Like the Beatles.
 
I like them a lot. I learned pretty much the whole English Settlement album, but it almost killed me. One of my last pop accomplishments, and I left it to last because it needed all my improving ears. Gone now, I had this idea to video record all the effort, but never realized it. Might pick it up again for fun one of these days.
 
I've been a big fan of XTC since I first heard them in 1979. Quirky, interesting lyrics, not just a straight 4/4 timing. Something a little different. And very ironic this topic is coming up now. A few days ago I was looking through my rocksmith library for something new to learn. I forgot I had downloaded a bunch of XTC songs when I started learning bass. The songs were too hard for me at the time. Now that I've learned more, I found I can play some of them. I'm starting with 'Dear God' and 'Sargent Rock is Going to Help Me'
 
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XTC is one my favorite bands from the 80's, and I must admit that it's a pleasant surprise to read that amount of love from you american guys.

It's also my first and most frustrating rock concert experience: I was 12 years old, my mother let me go and see them live in Paris, it was the first rock concert I was allowed to go to because I was just old enough and my older brother was going with me. They started to play the first song, I think it was "Generals and Majors" or "Respectable Streets", it sounded great, I was amazed, when the singer went off stage because he was sick. And they cancelled the show just like that in the middle of the first song! I believe they never played live after that :-(

Anyway, one of the best bands of that area, I still listen to them quite often. Also great inspirational bass lines. Together with Elvis Costello and the Attractions (Bruce Thomas on bass), Joe Jackson (Graham Maby on bass), and Bow Wow Wow (Leigh Gorman on bass).

Can you believe I never heard about King Crimson? I have to listen to them now…
 
Loved the middle era and also late stuff though it didn't have the staying power for me. Lots of fretless bass without annoying slides and mwah too.

I had a Nissan Sentra in the mid 90s that I tricked out with a a power amp to drive upgraded front door speakers and a 10" sub in the back. Really fun project - built a custom fit fiberglass sub enclosure. But I still remember the first track I played to test it out was XTCs "Runaway" (first track on one of their albums.) The intro sounded so awesome on that new audio system!
 
XTC is one my favorite bands from the 80's, and I must admit that it's a pleasant surprise to read that amount of love from you american guys.

It's also my first and most frustrating rock concert experience: I was 12 years old, my mother let me go and see them live in Paris, it was the first rock concert I was allowed to go to because I was just old enough and my older brother was going with me. They started to play the first song, I think it was "Generals and Majors" or "Respectable Streets", it sounded great, I was amazed, when the singer went off stage because he was sick. And they cancelled the show just like that in the middle of the first song! I believe they never played live after that :-(

Anyway, one of the best bands of that area, I still listen to them quite often. Also great inspirational bass lines. Together with Elvis Costello and the Attractions (Bruce Thomas on bass), Joe Jackson (Graham Maby on bass), and Bow Wow Wow (Leigh Gorman on bass).

Can you believe I never heard about King Crimson? I have to listen to them now…
Partridge's problems with stage fright are pretty well known and was probably a major factor in why they weren't as immense as they could've been.

On the other hand I suspect it might've contributed to them being better songwriters since it meant more time at home woodshedding rather than touring with the same songs night after night for years.