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So what if you like how it looks? The question was justification of your bandmates objection to the size. Put balls on your strawman and what do you have? A R18 strawman.
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Your Rig's Too Big!
- Thread starter Ox Boris
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So what if you like how it looks? The question was justification of your bandmates objection to the size. Put balls on your strawman and what do you have? A R18 strawman.
At a massive stretch, I can see why the thread title might throw you, if you insist on the word "big" having only one meaning. Though I'd be embarrassed to make such a fatuous claim.
"Big" doesn't refer only to physical dimensions and you'll see in the OP that the actual quote from the bloke in question was, "it's too much." This squares with the one answer we've seen so far, that might explain things.
Let me make it plain: He has no problem with how it looks.
We've got it...he has issue with the size of your rig relative to the gig to which you brought it. You brought a full stack to some tiny pub.
And if you brought a full stack to some of the smaller venues i've managed I'd probably think the same thing. My second thought would be "if he plays that anywhere near its top volume it'll be the last gig they get here".
Hopefully my second last thoughts would be "he kept his volume to reasonable levels. Well done."
With my last thoughts as they load out being "he's still a wanker though...... who'd want to lug that much crap to a small pub gig at his age."
'Ox Boris' said:
I guess you never got an answer and made a valid assumption.
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Necessity is the mother of invention. Of course, you mentioned that it was a pub earlier in the thread....I'm speculating on its size given your relative newness to the bass and your band mates response to your rig size. Your unwillingness to give a direct answer also provides a few clues.
I'm starting to think there wasn't much of a question here, either....
Guys that bring oversized rigs to inappropriate venues tend to be burdensome to their bands. Not only in volume level, but in stage space needs, setup times and transportation space. It's a general rule of thumb that those of us with a significant amount of experience have seen played out over and over. Now, maybe this broad brush paints you unfairly, and your the exception to the rule that loads his massive rig quickly, doesn't hog valuable stage space, and plays at appropriate volumes....but it's understandable why a more experienced musician would be skeptical and critical of you oversized rig.
Or, you just wanted a debate......
He's not skeptical or critical for any of the reasons you have mentioned.
...for the entire thread...
...for the entire thread...
This is probably the best example I can give: I used to play with this band, and we had two guitarists and a drummer that just loved their huge rigs. They used them everywhere, including this tiny stage. There were 4 of us trying to share this stage. The load in? Straight up a set of metal stairs. This room held no more than 200 people and had sound reinforcement. The second we started loading this stuff in, the management warned us about volume. The guitarist assured him that we knew how to use our volume knobs, and had the same indignation you've shown in this thread. Of course, they were incorrect. As their ears adjusted to the volume, they continued to turn up and up. I didn't, and I got to where I couldn't even hear myself. Needless to say, we ended up too loud and got told to turn down. Not to mention that we got numerous snickers from other musicians that wandered in. We weren't invited back.
Too loud. Terrible load in. No stage space. Fun....
BTW, I've always thought of this picture as the Where's Waldo of bass rigs.
Too loud. Terrible load in. No stage space. Fun....
BTW, I've always thought of this picture as the Where's Waldo of bass rigs.
I'm skeptical of that. But, if thats the case, can you tell us why he's critical?
Yet more invention. I cannot possibly indignant at anything suggested that doesn't apply to me. Your issue is that you won't take no for an answer.
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I'll quiz him further on Wednesday. But not about anything you've mentioned, that's already been done.
I'm going to put the "waste" idea to him.
So you have to ask him....but you're certain I'm wrong.
Your sig is appropriate here. Good luck with your non issue.
