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ZOOM B9.1ut

#21
Here's a setup I use so that I can have four of my favorite kinds of effects such that one button push turns it on, and off. Kinda like having four independant foot pedals. I play fretless, so the EQ and Reverb are set up the way I like it as a "default" condition...tweek per your own preferences.

(Gotta love that Editor/Librarian :hyper:)

Settings for each of the four footswitches:

1 Compressor = off
Wah/EFX1 =Octave: OctLvl=50, DryLvl=50, Tone=10, Level=80

2 AMP = BigMuff: Tone=30, MixBal =26, Gain=89, Level=44, ZNR=3
EXT Loop=Off

3 Mod/EFX2 = AutoWah: Sense =50, Resonance=10, DryMix=56
EQ =
sub bass: g= 0
bass: g= 0
lo-mid: type=q2 f=250 g=-2
hi-mid: type=q2 f=800 g=+5
treble: g=0
presence: g=0

4 Delay = Delay: Time=375ms, PreDelay=1, Tone=10, Mix=50
Reverb = Hall: Decay=8, Predelay=1, Tone=10, Mix=50

Enjoy!
 
#22
I got one to replace the Zoom player 2000B Ive had and used since it first came out. But which finally broke down and stopped working. Hows the B9.1ut compare to it for me?
1. the eq section isnt as good, doesnt haver anything between the 50hz and 120 hz range.
2. the one really good overdrive voice for me is good but not quite as good as my previous unit.
3. The ring mod isnt quite as articulate as the one my player2000B had.
4. The chorus, flanger, delay, and echo effects of the B9.1ut are better then previous units.
5. Of available new multieffects the Zoom B9.1ut is my fave unit. However Id trade it for a fully functional great condition zoom player 2000b for the main effects I want. (overdrive, eq, ring mod).
 
#25
singlemalt said:
The B9 .1 is much easier to dial in if you have a way to midi it to your computer and use the library editor software. Everything is spread out on your desktop.

The eq can be tweeked to your hearts content.
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+1

Just picked up a HOSA MIDI/USB interface and downloaded the librarian software. The interface was plug and play and within minutes I had my presets loaded into my computer and I was tweaking away. Much easier than scrolling the LCD display on the unit. The EQ section is incredibly flexible. I didn't know about the LPF and HPF with the adjustable frequencies. Love how you can tweak the patch, export it, see how it sounds and edit all on the fly. Loving this unit even more now! Everything I thought it would be. The only thing I would want is a longer loop time.
 
#26
ga_edwards said:
Unless I've misunderstood what you're saying, the B9.1ut's eq is semi parametric. The sub bass band covers the 50-120hz range inclusive. In fact I think this is the most flexible eq section I've had on any device.
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Yes you do get some choices for some of the bands. But the lowest the bass control can be set is 120hz. Id much prefer it had the 80hz choice my old unit had. The b9.iut "sub bass" which isnt sub bass at all is at 50hz. Real sub bass is below 40hz. The player2000B sub bass was at 40hz rather then 50hz. Dont get me wrong, the B9.iut is the best unit out their new at the moment imo. But I do think they made a few msitakes compared to their older top of line units for more robust low bass choices. With my old player 2000B I had two low bass controls, the 120 hz is to me over close to the boom bass area which I dont like much. In most other areas this newer unit is better. But it falls a little short in what got me loving the 2000B the most. Dialing in things with the new unit is also harder somehow. With my old unit it was easier in all ways. My voice revolves around heavy overdrive with some ring mod added for an extra kick to low bass allmost synth like , plus extensive little eq tweaks and a little bit of reverb for room ambience for ready for recording and in the mix voice. I just got more with the player 2000B 8 band eq section.
 
#27
I'm seriously considering one of these. I currently have a bossme50b, and the 2 effects I want it most for (right now) are pretty much useless - the octaver and the synth. At least for me. How are these in the zoom? Especially the octaver? Is it possible to pound out 16th notes on a drop D with the octave up kicked in? :) The boss pretty much makes a mess of that.

Anyone have any audio clips?

Any updated thoughts on the unit overall?
 
#29
I could use some help
I have the software from zoom loaded and purchased a midi to USB cable.
When I try to send or receive I get an error saying device timed out.
1 time the blue light on my cable came on like it was trying to transfer, but my monitor went pale and the hour glass came up and nothing else happened.
Does anyone know waht i'm doing wrong?
Thanks
 
#32
This thing has some promising sounds. And each and every bit of each is totally tweakable. But you still have to try out each preset, figure out what part of the preset combination of stuff is working, and start tweaking each part.

Without the whole picture laid out on your screen you'll be lost. I'd suggest downloading the free software librarian and having a look. You'll see just how many layers are in each effect style and how they can be adjusted. If you are trying to do this on the tiny LED screen while you squat with your bass in hand, you'll go nuts.

Better yet if you are a "read the manual" kind of guy. That helps too. I still haven't made it through. If you have lots of time and lots of patience, this thing could be great for you.

As for today's run at the synth sounds, some are good, some are not so good but you can adjust them. Some patches have misleading names, they are more like synths than what they are named. Like the guitar unison sound, basically a synth with octave up. It tracks larger intervals better than half steps. It's pretty quick but you can out run it going fast. It can sound terrible, but with a few adjustments it can be pretty cool. I'm trying to get a good low synth patch looped and run this over the top. Mixed results so far.

The octave down works better.

The stereo imaging is awesome. Cool effects that can be swept around with the sideways foot control.

I'm going back to the manual to see if maybe this thing could be enough of a stereo pre amp to drive a couple power amps.



I bought mine from ZZounds and they will take things back if you don't like em. It's not making me any money so far, but it's not the dumbest thing I ever spent 3 bills on. I just need to put in more time.

Things I still like: headphones with good levels for practice, aux in, stereo out both 1/4" and xlr, killer preamp, nice compressors (but no lights to let you know when its squashing signal), expression pedal, midi, and best of all the software to make it work.

I still need to figure a bunch of stuff out.
 
#33
As for the midi connection question, I don't know for sure what's going on, but I suspect its the midi USB adaptor you are trying to run.

Mine works really well, but here's how I'm running it: Both midi cables are connected to the Presonus Firepod interface. The firepod runs by firewire 400 to the Mac. There's a little configuring to be done, but it must have been simple if I managed to get it working.

The Zoom b9 is also connected by two 1/4 jacks, left and right outputs, to channels 1 and 2 of the Firepod. I can monitor things either with the headphone out on the Zoom (just what I'm playing, plus the aux in) or better yet from the headphone on the Firepod. That gives me the Zoom plus whatever is coming back from the Mac, Garageband, itunes, or any other audio like Youtube or DVD. You can probably do all the audio stuff with the USB, but you still need the midi to use the data transfer.

For some reason the Zoom uses midi for data transfer. I don't know if the data transfer can be accessed with USB.

Even while you are working on the midi problem, the librarian can still help. The software lays out all the modules on your screen and that's been invaluable for me. There's tons of stuff "hiding" in the zoom. With the librarian, you can see all the layers in each module.

I'm just now starting "get it" on the five scroll wheels under the LED display, but I'm a long way from having memorized all the layers of options.

Once you get it hooked up, it's cool to see the unit changing settings as you dial stuff in on the computer screen. Save the patch and its done.

What would be really cool is if the Zoom via midi could track what's playing on the bass and run Halion in Cubase, but that's not happening. That's still Roland synth territory. If I want to play synth in Cubase, I use the midi cables to connect my Casio to the Firepod. So far, the synths on the Zoom are the weakest part. Past a certain speed the synths just won't track fast enough.

Good luck, but it sounds like you might need an interface with midi hookups. I haven't used the usb on the Zoom, the Firepod does that and doesn't tie up my usb ports.
 
#35
Just pulled the trigger. Reading the manual online. Dang! This thing goes deep. I'm pretty excited. I've owned a few zoom pedals and liked them all. The ONLY thing I really didn't like about any of the others was changing programs live, and bypassing the effects, was tough for me. I'm not too good with pedals and... yeah, well, this one seems a little more gig friendly. Going to do my best to dedicate the time to learn it really well also. Psyched. Should have it in a couple of days. Just hope my Boss effects fit in the box so I can easily sell them. :)
 
#38
Robear22 said:
I got one yesterday and I am going to program a bank of sounds and use it at church this weekend and at a rehearsal. I am really not an effects guy but some of the sounds I was getting with this box were incredible. Totally tweakable and seems very easy to use at a gig!!!!!
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+ one on everything there but the church gig. :)

I'm kinda excited about this. I've owned lots of different effects and never felt really at home with any of them. Always liked the zooms the best though. I have a good feeling about this.
 
#39
Mine is on the way, I'm pretty excited. I was comparing between various multi-fx, and the b9 seemed to have the most bang for you buck. The boss pedals were in contention, but seemed a little bit too simple actually. I am wondering about the MIDI issue though. What are you guys using as an interface? I have a PC, and was looking at the "MIDIMAN MIDISPORT 1x1". Would this be appropriate? How does the USB out of the b9 actually get utilized? Why do you need the MIDI interface/what does it actually do?
 
#40
lokikallas said:
How does the USB out of the b9 actually get utilized? Why do you need the MIDI interface/what does it actually do?
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The USB port acts as a way to record/jam along with a computer. Plug it in, select the USB as your audio source and off you go (at least on my Mac, not sure about PC).

The MIDI interface allows the effects/patches to be modified, saved and renamed from a computer via the Zoom software. it is very, very cool.
 

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