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Zoom MS-60B+ (a compact B2-Four?)

Is it worth it to you if you already have the old 60B? I can't tell you that. It depends on how you use it and effects you need/want. But if you get the chance to try it (from a store with a nice return policy), I'd definitely give it a go.
I had an MS60B and a B2 Four: the latter was better in almost every way imaginable except the real estate it took up on my board. I didn’t like the amp sims in the MS60B, though, so if you like the GK or Eden sims, maybe that’s a difference maker.

Given how cheap the MS60B+ is new, I can’t really see the argument against upgrading. It’s not like an argument about upgrading your Pod Go with an HX Stomp, which would be a significant investment to make the switch.
 
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Ta @GotGroove ... yeah... I think I shall have to bite the bullet...

Oh - anyone know if it's possible to import the patches from the 60b to the 60b+?
Not that I know. My old 60B went to a new owner after I modded it for her so I didn't actually test it with the new app, but it doesn't look like that app, which is the only way to access a patch pool and copying complete patches will accept older pedals.

I did copy a few patches I made on the old one to the B+ by hand. Many of the new effects and dial settings are too different for a perfect 1o1 copy. It'll get you in the ballpark, but some tweaking may be required.
 
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Massive thanks.. I will take a gander ASAP. Not sure I'll ever use more than 4 effects in a patch, but it would be really nice to have that option, should I need it. I've been toying with getting the 60b+, but I'm not sure it's worth it... this might stop me from continuing that search hahahaha
It depends on what you are looking for in my case it was worth it for the better sounds on some of the effects and amp models since I'm using it as an all in one solution for quickie rehearsals and sets. I do find some of the effects more usable, fitting better in a mix plus it is quieter for direct or IEM situations. The comps, distortions and amp models are significantly improved to my ear.
 
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It depends on what you are looking for in my case it was worth it for the better sounds on some of the effects and amp models since I'm using it as an all in one solution for quickie rehearsals and sets. I do find some of the effects more usable, fitting better in a mix plus it is quieter for direct or IEM situations. The comps, distortions and amp models are significantly improved to my ear.
That's a very good overview of my needs.
I can now hopefully ditch the impulse response loader too... I think
 
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Another question... on the 60b, I am able to assign a "letter" to a patch and then scroll through them using the footswitch when in memory mode.
is that available on the 60b+ or does one have to now use the 4 switches that surround the main switch?

Sorry for the terrible English... some's EV caught fire in the wee hours... not much sleep
 
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Another question... on the 60b, I am able to assign a "letter" to a patch and then scroll through them using the footswitch when in memory mode.
is that available on the 60b+ or does one have to now use the 4 switches that surround the main
Unfortunately, that feature is gone. And using the upper buttons is the only way to change patches on the rig. It's not very foot-friendly, even though I've added raised bumps on those buttons (which does help). I'm pretty sure it can respond to MIDI patch change messages via USB, but that's a whole thing.
 
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Unfortunately, that feature is gone. And using the upper buttons is the only way to change patches on the rig. It's not very foot-friendly, even though I've added raised bumps on those buttons (which does help). I'm pretty sure it can respond to MIDI patch change messages via USB, but that's a whole thing.
Bugger. So no Windows software... No scrolling through with the footswitch.... Wow, Zoom... Really?
 
Bugger. So no Windows software... No scrolling through with the footswitch.... Wow, Zoom... Really?
I've said this often: I hate the chonky button design. If only they had made it a cursor diamond-- then the left, right, and lower buttons would be easy to hit with the foot, and the upper button could have been raised up higher than the center footswitch. Also, how much more intuitive if the direction of the button corresponds with the onscreen motions. ... sigh. Alas.

It would be possible for them to allow the user to assign the upper or lower buttons to patch switching... but they won't.
 
I've said this often: I hate the chonky button design. If only they had made it a cursor diamond-- then the left, right, and lower buttons would be easy to hit with the foot, and the upper button could have been raised up higher than the center footswitch. Also, how much more intuitive if the direction of the button corresponds with the onscreen motions. ... sigh. Alas.

It would be possible for them to allow the user to assign the upper or lower buttons to patch switching... but they won't.
You make a good point there... for me, looking at the design, I have no idea who in the design department thought it better to put the memory buttons on top and not the bottom. I've read countless comments on this - all negative. I dunno... I'm not convinced enough to not just leave the 60b on my little board and carry on saving towards that bloody HX Stomp hahahaha
 
I'm not convinced enough to not just leave the 60b on my little board and carry on saving towards that bloody HX Stomp hahahaha
Comparing a stomp to a 60B+ is kinda unfair. The zoom is 60-70% cheaper and has a completely different way of doing things. The zoom is also way smaller and doesn't require an external power source. The HX series has many more effects but is also much more complex and you pay for both. Of course the HX will probably sound better. If you want to compare the Stomp to any Zoom pedal, at least take the B6. But that discussion is for another thread.

As a fly rig, the 60B+ is fine for what you get for the price. I make an effort to not change effects mid-song on gigs like that. It sits on my amp, and if I want to change something for a next song, it's easy enough. I have presets for just about every type of song ready. I just want the fundamentals on those gigs and the 60B+ is fine for that. I also use it as an addition to my B6 sometimes where the 60B+ is for the basic tones and the B6 is used for any effects I want on top of those.

But yes, if you often switch boards and effects during songs the Stomp is way more convenient. Again, you get what you pay for.
 
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It's possible Zoom was thinking that it would be more common to page left & right and disable pedals one at a time-- and you can save which pedal is in the selected slot for on/off for a preset. There's a bit of logic to that, I suppose.

Using the upper L/R buttons to change presets is a high-risk gesture in the heat of a song. Getting rid of the A,B,C... patch switching is really disappointing, because that was SO useful and clever. Patch changing via USB is not a good solution because you need a HOST device that sends patch changes-- (another piece of gear, and not super common).

Still, hard to argue with the semi-decent sounds and price-point.
 
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No LS? How strange..? But yeah, button A is clean, button B is drive... That sorta thing works too
The other thing that was not well-though-out on the B2-FOUR is that the DI out is always the same as the stereo outs-- so you can't send a non-amp/cab-model signal to your amp and an amp/cab model to the house. (I think the MS-60B+ can do that ?)

I don't have a MS-60B+, but have been following this thread. I have a B2-Four and MS-70CDR+
 
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