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Zoom MS-60B+ (a compact B2-Four?)
- Thread starter Al Krow
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Right. I should have said it only says you can directly output to an amp.
Maybe not enough room for an XLR, but also not within its “core mission”.
This is most likely why. Providing a balanced DI out is not exactly demanding in any way, but the connector takes up space and this is a small pedal already packed with features.
Having said that, there's no reason you can't go straight to desk with it. It works.
I suppose if you are in a home studio and you are playing right next to your mixer, you could go straight in.
But in a live situation, there are multiple reasons why a DI is ESSENTIAL. First, is noise. Going from the stage to the mixing desk which might be 20-200' away, there's no way to have that long of an unbalanced cable run without picking up quite a bit of noise. That's what balanced (usually via XLR) connections and long cable runs provide is quiet signal. Second, the hardware on stage is a almost always a snake with XLR inputs, so connecting would require you or the mix engineer providing a 1/4" unbalanced (?!) to XLR adapter-- which is frankly weird and unwise. BTW, an impedance matching 1/4 to XLR IS an DI. A third reason is impedance, but I'm not very qualified to explain this one. And lastly, no mix engineer is going to allow you to do this, so they'll just bring you a DI anyway.
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Couldn’t you Velcro a Radial Stagebug or something to the bottom?
FYI in case you plan on running this pedal for gigs, regular, non-rechargable alkaline batteries don't last long in the 60B+.
I usually run the pedal off a Joyo power supply (nice piece of kit for small boards) but just as a test I tried it with a battery and I was surprised how quickly it burned through it.
Another TBer mentioned that something about this pedal and alkaline pedals is vastly different than Iithum ion rechargables. I haven't tried that yet. YMMV.
Absolutely, live you'll plug in your Zoom into some sort of DI. DI boxes are generally plentiful on any stage. Bottomline is I don't think the OP needs to worry about lack of a DI output in order to use it live.
You can power it from a USB powerbank: much more practical, imo.
I’ve done gigs this way with both the old MS60 and a B2 Four.
I have a rechargeable Donner PSU that I use for my board now, but I don’t feel comfortable relying on battery power with it for more than about an hour (although, admittedly, my board has some thirsty pedals).
I’ve had good luck so far with the Joyo Power 5 with just the ms60b+ and a source audio Zio. When I’ve used other pedals though, it was ok but def didn’t last as long.
But I’m getting killer tones with just those two pedals.
Just in case anyone is interested: I played a bunch of gigs lasting over 6 hours (including some that were almost 8 hours long) using a pair of 3500mWh Iithum ion rechargables and the 60B+ never died on me.
Haha, fair point. I do believe a small piece of me dies after each of these shows. But these were so-called Faschingsveranstaltungen - basically carnival events. That means sitting around for 5-6 hours, occasionally playing a march, a Tusch (the musical equivalent of a badum-tsssss), and some other bits of music now and then. Eating on stage and toilet breaks are totally fine, though.
After that, we'd play some dance music (standing up), which is always fun - as long as people are actually dancing. So overall, it's somewhat demanding, but not overwhelmingly so.
Also, when I said 8 hours, I meant the total time from switching on the 60B+ (starting with the soundcheck) to the final dance number.
After that, we'd play some dance music (standing up), which is always fun - as long as people are actually dancing. So overall, it's somewhat demanding, but not overwhelmingly so.
Also, when I said 8 hours, I meant the total time from switching on the 60B+ (starting with the soundcheck) to the final dance number.
I just got this pedal and I really love it so far. I can get a lot of different sounds out of it! Plus the tuner and HPF are nice to have.
However I never used a compressor before so I’m curious to other people’s settings. So far I like the glam comp but I haven’t settled on a setting yet.
I play flatwounds, fingerstyle only. I don’t mind some colour or tone sweetening.
Please also share your favourite clean tone signal chain.
However I never used a compressor before so I’m curious to other people’s settings. So far I like the glam comp but I haven’t settled on a setting yet.
I play flatwounds, fingerstyle only. I don’t mind some colour or tone sweetening.
Please also share your favourite clean tone signal chain.
I use as my baseline tone Glam Comp -> Clear Driver Pre -> HPF -> ZNR I'll set up a clone patch of that and add one or two effects for particular songs.
I'm not real savvy on "proper" compressor use, but I set the compression low, about 10, shape 5, vol and dry 50. Since I'm not a slapper, I don't hear a huge difference in volume moderation, but I like the boost and the depth the GC gives.
The comps, like all the other effects or amps, are close to their analog inspirations but there are some subtle differences. I tend to use the 160 close to the end of a signal chain especially to tame envelope filter peaks. Monotone and Bassman are my most used amps but I do occasionally use others often for distortion or overdrive textures.
