ZZTop "playing" live to bass tracks !?!

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by HUnt49, Aug 27, 2010.

  1. Anyone else notice that Billy's playing Bo Diddley's guitar?
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  2. Rocker949


    Apr 20, 2005

    That's the Gretsch Billy-Bo Jupiter Thunderbird, a joint Billy Gibbons-Bo Diddley effort that came out in 2005. There is also a bass version. Having a Gretsch bass would be nice.
  3. bearfoot

    bearfoot Inactive

    Jan 27, 2005
    Chittenango, NY

    2:12 or so when beard gets in his face

    I don't think that's left hand hammering, it's too smooth and consistent with the notes before and after the right hand raises
  4. Feedbacker


    Jan 25, 2014
    Necrothread alert...
  5. selowitch

    selowitch Supporting Member

    Aug 6, 2005
    Rockville MD
    I like ZZ Top a lot but when I saw them perform as part of a show with John Fogerty at Wolftrap recently I thought they seemed really tired and anemic.
  6. Badwater


    Jan 12, 2017
    Yes he stops picking, and the bass stops thumpin. What you may think you're hearing is really the kick bass and guitar.
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  7. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    I saw that combo too and ZZ Top was slow getting up to speed at Canandaigua as well - turned out pretty good, but yeah, just nowhere near as intense as Fogerty, who was just incandescent. Shining like a falling star...
  8. selowitch

    selowitch Supporting Member

    Aug 6, 2005
    Rockville MD
    Fogerty was astoundingly good. I loved it when his son, Shane, came up to play guitar alongside him.
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2018
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  9. IamGroot


    Jan 18, 2018
    Watched the video a couple of times. IMO, he's playing (but not so well). The bass stage sound is terrible, and the bass drum is covering it over. He seems not to be playing when he is doing an open A because he is using his left hand to sound it. I do this a lot when turning pages on sheet music. I think he was trying to signal the sound crew or trying to get the beard out of his face.
  10. IamGroot


    Jan 18, 2018
    John Fogerty recorded the live studio album "Premonition" in 1997 with killer versions of most of the original CCR hits. Great album. Bob Glaub on bass, Kenny Aaronoff on drums. This is my go-to album to get CCR bass lines for covers.

    I presume John was mad with his original band over the music rights to his songs and this album was a spanking.
  11. selowitch

    selowitch Supporting Member

    Aug 6, 2005
    Rockville MD
    The story there is a long and sad one.
  12. IamGroot


    Jan 18, 2018
    Yep, and he put 100% into that performance to show who the real talent was. Absolutely flawless performance, plus no detuned guitars.
  13. selowitch

    selowitch Supporting Member

    Aug 6, 2005
    Rockville MD
    There’s something about John Fogerty that evokes such strong emotions in me. I suspect that’s true of a lot of his fans. There’s a powerful connection there.
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  14. ClusterFlux

    ClusterFlux Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2018
    As a few other people mentioned, the bass like was probably overdubbed for the video/recording.

    I also have to point out that some bands have musicians offstage. Keyboards are fairly common, they also use vocalists and guitars offstage. I don't know if bands typically have bassists offstage though.
  15. IamGroot


    Jan 18, 2018
    I didn't think it was overdubbed as the bass playing was "below par" for Dusty.
    Rick Danko completely redubbed his bass parts for the Last Waltz
  16. OldDog52

    OldDog52 Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 1, 2011
    Pacific Northwest
    I never actually learned to play very well
    Fogerty’s autobiography is a good read that helps explain why there will probably never be a CCR reunion of any kind.

    Fortunate Son: My Life, My Music


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  17. I think the note's sustaining and the kick drum makes it seem like it's being plucked, rotten sound though, no bottom really, all the bottom is coming from the kick which is way too loud.
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  18. Sure it is, GWB made it up!

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  19. selowitch

    selowitch Supporting Member

    Aug 6, 2005
    Rockville MD
    Indeed not. Thanks for recommending the book. As it happens, I read it shortly after it came out. Quite a read!
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