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Is plugging a head into a power conditioner bad?

I had a Stewart power amp worked on once. I was specifically instructed by their head engineer never to plug their power amps, of any other quality name bass head or power amp into a power conditioner.

The conditioner will attemp to 'control power flow' to the head or power amp to protect it and can starve the head of all the power it wants, and damage the power amp or head.

I had been using a conditioner. I did have power with the power amp. I never again and will not again.

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I had a Stewart power amp worked on once. I was specifically instructed by their head engineer never to plug their power amps, of any other quality name bass head or power amp into a power conditioner.

The conditioner will attemp to 'control power flow' to the head or power amp to protect it and can starve the head of all the power it wants, and damage the power amp or head.

I had been using a conditioner. I did have power with the power amp. I never again and will not again.

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so what do you do now?
 
The OP is not asking whether the power conditioner will help - rather, whether it will hurt? The answer to both questions, I assume is "no".
It can hurt, by leaving the amp current starved, and it can't help, so there's no reason to have it at all.
that article also seems to say that tube amplifiers are complete trash and shouldent exist, and that its a cut-and-dry fact that vinyl does not sound as good as CD.
Read it in the context intended where SS vs tubes are concerned, which is clean high power for hi-fi applications. We love our tubes for instrument use, but only because they don't run pristine clean. And vinyl sounds OK only until it gets that first scratch. :bawl:
 
It can hurt, by leaving the amp current starved, and it can't help, so there's no reason to have it at all.
Read it in the context intended where SS vs tubes are concerned, which is clean high power for hi-fi applications. We love our tubes for instrument use, but only because they don't run pristine clean. And vinyl sounds OK only until it gets that first scratch. :bawl:

your right about the scratches, but a clean vinyl certainly sounds more robust and "fat" than a CD, but does also have a darker high end. but thats totally a subjective "like or dont like" thing.

and, i know the articles point of view was from hi-fi intended point of view, but he kept using the word "amplifier" and i assumed he meant instrument amplifier.. wich he may not have.. (i could go look again cause i think he says "guitar amplifier," but this is off topic anyway..)
 
and, i know the articles point of view was from hi-fi intended point of view, but he kept using the word "amplifier" and i assumed he meant instrument amplifier..
What he meant is power amplifier. Technically there are pre-amplifiers, power amplifiers, and integrated amplifiers, which combine the two. Musical instrument amps are integrated amplifiers.
link for good strips please?
I picked one of these up at Lowes yesterday. Metal case, 15 foot 14 ga. cord. That's plenty for most rigs.
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It can hurt, by leaving the amp current starved, and it can't help, so there's no reason to have it at all.
I've been intending to pick up the cheapest possible one I can find purely as a clean way to police semipermanent AC power connections within the rack.

To me, that's an incredibly persuasive reason to get one of these otherwise stupid devices if it does no harm...but if it does, then I'm out. :(
 
What he meant is power amplifier. Technically there are pre-amplifiers, power amplifiers, and integrated amplifiers, which combine the two. Musical instrument amps are integrated amplifiers.

I picked one of these up at Lowes yesterday. Metal case, 15 foot 14 ga. cord. That's plenty for most rigs.
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I'm still going to purchase the furman But i'll definately pick up that power strip. itll be fine if i plug the furman into that power strip and the 800rb to the power strip right?
 
Furman M8's are simple MOV based surge protectors. When the MOVs fail, the box is toast and has to be replaced. It is also possible that once those MOVs blow, all surge suppression is gone.

Buy a Furman PL8C and get a much better conditioner.

Also, ignore Bill Fitzmaurice. He makes speaker cabinets, which AFAIK never needed power conditioners and he cites Internet "experts". There are better arguments pro-conditioner.


There's a good reason there's one of these in every single sound reinforcement rack out in the field.
 
A very large power surge took out my Furman one night at a small club which was protecting a yamaha digital sound board and a full eq/effects rack. The Furman did it's job and saved my gear and Furman replaced the fried conditioner free of charge. I would never trust an expensive amp or electronic gear to a simple power strip. Just my opinion.